Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 05:29:09 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde: Chariklo and Chiron
"The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde"
(J&H) was written in the autumn of 1885 and published in London
January 9th, 1886 (it was published January 5th in New York). It
immediately became an international best-seller, selling 40,000 copies
in 6 months. If we use the "official" date of release in England at
noon, we find:
Sun J&H publ. = 26,04 Sagittarius (sidereal Fagan/Bradley)
1181 Lilit = 26,50 Sagittarius
Quaoar = 26,35 Gemini
NOTE for the date, see http://www.simonfinch.com/pages/details.php?cat_num=9632
Here, the opposition with Quaoar can be interpreted in terms of the
identification of Victorian society with the story, the psychological
thematics of the split (opposition) personality, the "evil" aspect of
the human being, the Darwinian conception of the animal or beastly
"original man", the Freudian dynamics of the ego/id/super ego, etc. I
don't think Quaoar is beastly or has anything to do with
split-personality or Freudian psychodymanics per se, but it is related
to the large cultural themes that "take hold" of an epoch, the vast
"cultural impact" and universal meaning of the now super-famous,
immortalized, iconic story of Jekyll and Hyde. (1181 Lilith represents
the theme itself).
But obviously, the double-natured human being and the split
personality, "the monster inside", the moral and social crack that
ended in the destruction of both Jekyll and Hyde, is archetypally
centaurean. Keeping the 1-degree orbs and the conjunction and
oppositions or t-squares only, there is one configuration that looks
Venus = 8,20 Aquarius (sidereal)
Pluto = 8,13 Taurus
Chariklo = 8,26 Scorpio
giving a more intimate and personal look inside Dr, Jekyll's and Hyde's
"soft part" of their personality, marked by a very dark Chariklo with
deadly and/or obsessive (Pluto) overtones. The role of Chariklo proves
to be central when we realize that when the story was conceived and
written as a result of a dream or nightmare of the author (see
explanation below), transiting Chariklo was conjunct his natal Sun.
Robert Louis Stevenson
was born in Edinburgh (55n57/03w13) Nov 13 1850, at 13:30 according to
family records (Circle Book of Charts #869, Notable Nativities #243,
from "Modern Astrology" ix, 174 - 1903).
Unfortunately, I have not found any reference to the exact dates when
the story originated, although all accounts mention either autumn,
mid-summer, or late 1885. The events are narrated by R.L. Stevenson
himself in "A Chapter on Dreams" (1892):
can but give an instance or so of what part is done sleeping and what
part awake…and to do this I will first take…Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I
had long been trying to write a story on this subject. For two days I
went about wracking my brains for a plot of any sort, and on the second
night I dreamed the scene at the window and a scene afterward split in
two, in which Hyde, pursued for some crime, took the powder and
underwent the change in the presence of his pursuers. All the rest was
made awake, and consciously>> http://www.herownroom.com/famousdreams.htm
a more detailed account is given by his wife Fanny in the biography written by Stevenson's cousin, Graham Balfour:
the small hours of one morning," says Mrs. Stevenson, "I was awakened
by cries of horror from Louis. Thinking he had a nightmare, I awakened
him. He said angrily: Why did you wake me? I was dreaming a fine bogey
tale.' I had awakened him at the first transformation scene."
Immediately upon waking, Stevenson began writing feverishly, driven by
his sickness and the fear of losing the story. The first draft took
under three days. He had lately had a hemorrhage, and was strictly
forbidden all discussion or excitement. No doubt the reading aloud was
contrary to the doctor's orders; [after hearing the story read] Mrs.
Stevenson, according to the custom then in force, wrote a detailed
criticism of the story as it then stood, pointing out her chief
objection — that it was an allegory, whereas he has treated it purely
as if it were a story. In the first draft, Jekyll's nature was bad all
through and the Hyde change was worked only as a disguise. Stevenson
promptly burned the first draft, not out of anger or despair, but "from
a fear he would be tempted to make too much use of it, and not rewrite
the whole from a new standpoint.">> http://www.pioneertheatre.org/season/2_read.html
From the following quote we know that the events described took place later in the year:
letter from Fanny Stevenson to Henley about "rubbish" written by
Stevenson when not in his right mind ('congestion of the brain'), which
she intends to burn (the catalogue suggests this refers to Jekyll and
Hyde but Erenest Mehew has shown that the letter must have been written
in late April or early May 1885 - before the date when JH was
And from a letter he wrote to Sidney Colvin in late September/early
October 1885, we know that it must have been around September. (ref.: http://www.wwnorton.com/college/titles/english/nce/jekyll/contents.htm )
Whatever the exact date, we know that Chariklo had "seeded" the
author's Sun, and the dream and the writing of the story took place
during the 3rd and strongest phase of the transit of Chariklo:
R.L.S. natal Sun = 28,12 Libra (sidereal)
tr. Chariklo 28 Libra = Dec 1884, Jun 1885, Aug-Sep 1885
This role of Chariklo is confirmed when we examine the death chart.
Robert Louis Stevenson died of cerebral hemorrhage in the evening of
December 3, 1894, in Samoa:
Mr. R.L. STEVENSON, the celebrated novelist, died suddenly on the
evening of 3rd December... He expired about two hours after his first
seizure, the cause of death being sudden paralysis of the brain
accompanied by collapse of the lungs.>> http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENANZ/2001-11/1007150671
Chariklo at death = 27,00 Sagittarius
Sun publication of Jekyll & Hyde = 26,04 Sagittarius
The significance of this position of the Sun on the January 9th date of
publication is enhanced by a date given in the story itself. The true
identity of Mr. Hyde is unknown until the last part, when in chapter 9
we read the narration of Dr. Lanyon of his encounter with Mr. Hyde,
where he drank the potion and transformed into Dr. Jekyll in front of
him. This is said to have happened January 9th at midnight (year not
given). Before this point near the end of the story, it is not known
that Jekyll and Hyde are the same person. Regardless of the year, the
encounter happened when the Sun is around 26-27 Sagittarius (sidereal),
in conjunction with the position of Chariklo at death.
Why Chariklo? What do you think is the meaning of Chariklo here?
Chiron seems to be having a special role too, although less direct. At the moment of death (I use 9 p.m. as reference):
Sun at death = 18,36 Scorpio (sidereal)
Venus at death = 19,24 Scorpio
Chiron at birth =18,44 Scorpio
This refers to R.L. Stevenson's life in general (he died at 44), and
gives to it a very strong Chiron signature, not specifically to the
story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. But take a look at the Chiron
position on the day of its publication:
Chiron J&H published = 18,38 Taurus
which enhances the idea of the "split" (opposition) of the personality.
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:04:56 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, 2
We saw that "The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and
Mr. Hyde" was an incarnation of 1181 Lilith and Quaoar for the world.
The solar opposition of Quaoar will give important clues about its
meaning, probably related to the question: what did the publication of
this story mean for the world at that time (1886), why was it such a
best-seller? Why was it so appealing to the public? What does it
represent in human culture?
But for the author, Robert Louis Stevenson, this story in particular
was an incarnation of Chariklo from both the death and the birth chart
points of view: it incarnated the death Chariklo and was conceived and
written under the transit of Chariklo to the natal Sun. Its publication
date also points towards Chariklo, but in a more personal and specific,
more erotic " love/death", Venus-Pluto, very dark and obsessive sense.
The Venusian theme is emphasized by the exact Sun/Venus conjunction at
the time of Stevenson's death, incarnating the natal Chiron. Chiron
critically hit or "slashed" this conjunction when the story was
published. The strongly Sun/Venus/Chiron nature of R.L. Stevenson's
life reached "its maximum", its full moon phase or peak (opposition),
at the time of publication.
The date of publication, Jan 9th 1886, is also the position of the Sun
at the critical juncture of the story, when it is shown that Mr. Hyde
and Dr. Jekyll are really the same individual.
The significance of 1181 Lilith is increased when we consider:
1181 Lilith Jekyll & Hyde publ. = 26,50 Sagittarius (sidereal)
1181 Lilith at death = 28,27 Sagittarius
A difference of only 1,47' in an object that moves so fast (cycle=4
years) is really remarkable, and confirms the relationship this
asteroid has with the story.
These comments refer only to the story and its role in the author's
life, they are not a commentary on his life or personality (he was born
during an exact Sun/Elatus conjunction). This deserves a separate
Does anyone have clues about the meaning of Chariklo in this case?
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:43:03 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde: Fanny and TL66
... I keep thinking on his wife, who was part of the original
motivation to re-write the story, and also, about the relationship of
Stevenson with his father: I read somewhere that behind the story of
Jekyll and Hyde is their relationship, and Stevenson's desire to prove
something to his father, who at one point felt that his son had made of
his life an utter failure. I need to dig more on this.
Meanwhile: Frances Matilda (Fanny) Vandegrift, was born March 10, 1840, in Indianapolis, Indiana. If I use 18h U.T.:
Fanny Jupiter = 26,13 Libra (sidereal)
Fanny Quaoar = 27,23 Aries
R.L. Stevenson natal Sun = 28,12 Libra
There are some very interesting aspects, but I mention this one because
it repeats the Sun/Quaoar opposition of the story. There is also
the following involving the regular planets:
J&H publ. Saturn= 10,38 Gemini rx.
J&H publ. TL66 = 11,54 Sagittarius
R.L.S. death Jupiter = 10,28 Gemini
Fanny natal Mars = 10,27 Pisces
Fanny natal Mercury = 11,34 Pisces
TL66 is present in their relationship in a very profound, critical or difficult way:
Fanny natal Sun (approx.) = 27,46 Aquarius
Fanny natal Saturn = 28,53 Scorpio
R.L.S. natal Nessus = 28,39 Taurus
R.L.S. natal TL66 = 28,56 Scorpio
Their household was not "idyllic". She was 10 years older and
practically his nurse. It has been asserted that the "dream" or
nightmare was actually a cocaine-induced hallucination, since the
author took it under doctor's orders to alleviate his symptoms of
tuberculosis (he was convalescing from a recent hemorrhage at the
time). This made him very irritable, with frequent outbursts of anger.
Fanny survived him 20 years, and died in Santa Barbara (CA) February 19, 1914 (see ref. above). At 18h U.T.:
Fanny death TL66 = 26,26 Sagittarius!
J&H publ. Sun = 26,04 Sagittarius
Fanny death Venus = 8,39 Aquarius
J&H publ. Venus = 8,39 Aquarius!
So, perhaps one could say that for Fanny, Jekyll and Hyde were TL66, an aspect of the relationship with her husband.
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 15:55:40 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, 3: Neptune
The original "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" of 1885-86
gives many dates but the year is always omitted. It is actually a
narration of events all happening within a reduced span of time, and
the dates are given, so it is possible to make a timeline of them. This
semi-factual style of writing originated many derivative works,
sequels, and re-tellings where the story is given many more details. A
list of these derivative works is given in:
and there is a very comprehensive, very amusing synthesis in
A TIMELINE OF THE JEKYLL FAMILY
This starts in 1567 when Rex Rufus is captured by by a group of
Aztec Vampire women and ends in 1990 when Mr. Hyde emerges healed of
his wounds from his grave. You will find here --for example-- a link to
many amazing details of the life Ben Cartwright and his sons (of La
Ponderosa), taken from the Wold Wold West site. The details are
wonderful, not unlike those in the "Book of Urantia"...
What is interesting is that this timeline, based on most if not all the
derivative works and information from Stevenson's own original story of
1886, some more serious, some less, dates the events described in the
original story to October 1883 - March 1885. This timeline has usually
been assumed by the different versions of the story adapted to the
March is when the sequence of events ends, as described in chapter 8 of
the book, when Utterson breaks the door of Jekyll's room and finds the
body of Hyde, who has just died. In the cabinet, Utterson finds the
last words written by Jekyll, his confession and "farewell to life",
reproduced in chapter 10, when the book ends.
In another post I mentioned the date of "the revelation", given in
chapter 9, when Hyde meets Dr. Lanyon at midnight and transforms
himself into Dr. Jekyll in front of him. In chapter 7, we know that
Lanyon died about a week after this fatal encounter that left him
From all this, we know that the encounter where Hyde revealed his
identity to Lanyon, i.e., the point in the book where the mystery is
solved, happened January 9/10, 1885, at midnight:
Sun = 26,50 Sagittarius (sidereal)
Asbolus = 27,13 Gemini
Here, Asbolus' keywords fit very well the murder and horror mystery.
The next year, January 9th 1886, when the story was published, we still
see the same Sun/Asbolus opposition, though less exact:
Sun = 26,04 Sagittarius
Asbolus = 28,47 Sagittarius (orb=2,43')
The exactitude of the
1885 opposition adds credit to the idea that Jan 9 1885 is the
"correct" date, when the metamorphosis was witnessed by someone else.
Now, regarding how the story fits into the author's life, we must consider Neptune:
natal Sun of R.L.S. = 28,12 Libra
Neptune Jan 9 1885 = 27,31 Aries
Neptune Jan 9 1886 = 29,47 Aries
This means that, the writing
and the publication of the story happened during the transit of Neptune
in opposition to Stevenson's Sun. This transit is slower and more
indirect (opposition) than that of Chariklo over his natal Sun, which
is more time-specific and more immediate (conjunction). But it shows
that the whole period was Neptunian for the author. Neptune here refers
to a more complex process happening in the author's life, related
probably to his use and possible addiction to either alcohol, cocaine
or opium, his moving to the coastal town of Bournemouth, where he lived
from August 1884 to August 1887, and the strained relationship with his
father, who died in May, 1887. The exact transit happened in 1884-1885.
<<Robert Louis Stevenson was living in the coastal town of
Bournemouth in southern England when he wrote Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
Hyde. The Broadview edition contains a description by Lloyd
Osbourne, Stevenson's stepson, of the events surrounding the writing of
the story. In Bournemouth Stevenson was for the first time living
in a house he owned rather than rented, although it had been bought as
a wedding present to him and his new wife Fanny by Stevenson's
father.>> [ http://www.uta.edu/english/danahay/appendixE.html ]
Neptune, as well as Pluto, are very prominent in the author's death chart:
death Sun = 18,36 Scorpio (sidereal)
death Venus = 19,24 Scorpio
death Neptune = 21,12 Taurus
death Pluto = 17,29 Taurus
Pluto/Neptune midpoint = 19,20 Taurus
So the Neptune/Sun
opposition by transit in 1885 is reiterated at the time of death,
establishing the "seal" of his life. It appears in tropical
Gemini/Sagittarius, signaling to his chronic respiratory illness and
his therapeutic dependence on drugs, as well as to the debility of his
father image, his rejection of the conservative values of his family,
unconventional marriage, marginal lifestyle, and ultimately going to
live in Samoa, where he died.
The social-Neptunian alcohol and drugs signature of the Jekyll and Hyde story s clearly seen, for example, here:
<<... One of the papers presented was by Thomas Reed and Nicole
M. Slagle and was entitled "The Transforming Draught: Stevenson's
Mirror of Temperance." In this exceptionally interesting paper Reed and
Slagle argue that Jekyll and Hyde was shaped both by Stevenson's
ambivalence towards alcohol and by the wider social context of the
Victorian debate on alcohol and temperance. Their paper
traced the numerous references to alcohol in the story and also
reproduced images and arguments from the Victorian press on temperance
efforts and arguments against the consumption of alcohol.>> http://www.uta.edu/english/danahay/alcoholmain.html
Additionally, it is often mentioned that the white powder or salt described in the book was actually a purified form of cocaine.
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:25:27 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, 4
To clarify the possible meaning of Chariklo (and to differentiate it from Neptune) I would like to quote from Umma F. Khan, "A Psychological Investigation Into the Literary Case Study of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson"
I add by comments with "==>", after the relevant quote.
Louis Stevenson's gothic novel, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is not a story
of a monster. It is not about a madman or a serial killer. It is a
story about an entity-the one who dwells inside most of us, externally
conforming to culture, yet internally lusting for liberty.>>
==>Here is Chariklo, in the direction pointed out by Diana, the
"moral emancipation and freedom", the repression or the "illicit"
expression of the passions.
<<It is a story of a man that can transcend time in its
telling... It is the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde-- not two people
that dwell inside one man, but one man with two impulses roaring to be
heard inside of him. These two inclinations need not be binary
<<Often seen in films simply as the story of a good man taking a
ghastly "potion" and becoming an evil man, the vast and complex
psychological implications of the story extend to the benefit of an
understanding of not only the true nature of this allegorical piece of
fiction but also to an awareness of the countless psychological
struggles that the average person deals with in a lifetime and the not
so average person suffering from a psychotic disorder deals with on a
day to day basis.
==>Here is Neptune
<<The dream of reconciliation between conflicting selves is but a dream after all.>>
<<"All I dreamed about Dr. Jekyll was that one man was being
pressed into a cabinet, when he swallowed a drug and changed into
another being...All that was given me was the matter of three scenes,
and the central idea of a voluntary change becoming involuntary"
(Swearingen, 99). The dream served as a catalyst for every other aspect
of the story to Stevenson, and it was the "missing" link for what he
had been looking for so long. He had long been "trying to write a story
on this subject, to find a body, a vehicle, for that strong sense of
man's double being, which must at times come in upon and overwhelm the
mind of every thinking creature" (Swearingen, 99).
==>Neptune. "To find a body, a vehicle" is, technically, the solar conjunction or incarnation of Chariklo.
<<The irony of Jekyll's situation is that his normal public self
is seen as shut away...while for all his name, and fundamentally
anti-social self, Hyde inhabits the streets and acts and speaks.
<<There is a sense in which Hyde, for all his monstrosity, is but an addiction like alcohol, nicotine, drugs. >>
<<The above presentation of clinical evidence and theories of
various psychological entrapments exemplifies the present thesis
proposing that Stevenson's text is more than literary gothic fiction,
but is a literary case-study of true-to-life, even modern-day life,
addictions and afflictions.>>
<<"The idea behind the story is thus mirrored in its style: what
appeared to be separated is shown to be more intimately joined than
could ever have been supposed. Each isolated episode, event and figure,
apparently so scattered, comes together in the final design"...
<<To illustrate this point to its infinite factuality, one can
examine the ironic circumstances of Stevenson's own death. According to
the witness of Fanny Stevenson, when returning from the basement of
their home, Stevenson was afflicted with an abrupt pain to his head. He
fell dying to the floor immediately after crying out, "What's the
matter with me, what is this strangeness, has my face changed?" . The
final words of a man, the creator of a character who could have spoken
the same words a hundred times from the moment The Strange Case of Dr.
Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was conceived in dream, brought to reality in a way
never forgotten. >>
==>this is a good example (or explanation) of the astrological significance of the moment of death.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 06:07:41 -0600
Subject: Re: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, 5
Using the words from the quotes provided in the last post:
- externally conforming to culture, yet internally lusting for liberty.
- repression --or "illicit" expression-- of the passions
- the normal public self is shut away...while the fundamentally anti-social self acts and speaks.
- the dream of reconciliation between conflicting selves (a dream after all?).
gives support to the idea I have expressed in the past, that Chariklo
expresses the "liberating" aspect of the Lilith archetype, the
liberation of Lilith from the uterus of the Black Moon.
- the vast and complex psychological implications
- the countless psychological struggles of the average person
- the afflictions and suffering of psychotic disorder on a day to day basis.
- addiction like alcohol, nicotine, drugs.
CONJUNCTION OF ELATUS WITH THE SUN:
- to find a body, a vehicle for that strong sense of man's double being
- what appeared to be separated is shown to be more intimately joined
THE DEATH CHART
- each isolated episode, event and figure, apparently so scattered, comes together in the final design...
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:32:30 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, 6: more Chariklo
I sent my first post on the subject, pointing
toward Chariklo, on 27 Dec. 2003 at 11:29 GMT. The following shows
Chariklo's activation at that time.
All aspects are within the 1-degree orb, and only Sun, Moon,
conjunction, opposition, and t-square are considered, as usual, related
to the death and birth charts. Added this time are secondary
progressions (direct and converse, sidereal or "bija" rate), and
converse transits. All positions are sidereal.
R.L.S. (=Robert Louis Stevenson) tr. converse Sun = 16,39 Virgo
R.L.S. natal Chariklo = 17,24 Pisces
R.L.S. tr. converse Chariklo = 27,30 Libra
R.L.S. natal Sun = 28,12 Libra
converse Chariklo is conjunct natal Sun, converse Sun is opposition natal Chariklo.
tr. Sun 10,29 Sagittarius
tr. Mercury = 9,28 Sagittarius
tr. Chariklo = 10,08 Virgo
R.L.S death Jupiter = 10,28 Gemini
publication of Jekyll & Hyde Saturn = 10,38 Gemini
transiting Sun/Mercury squaring transiting Chariklo, forming a t-cross with the Jupiter/Saturn cross-conjunction.
R.L.S. secondary progressed Moon = 22,51 Virgo
R.L.S. secondary progressed Chariklo = 22,03 Pisces
R.L.S. converse solar arc Moon = 17,09 Virgo
R.L.S. natal Chariklo = 17,24 Pisces
progressed Moon opposition progresses Chariklo
converse solar arc Moon opposition natal Chariklo.
This is a lot of Chariklo, Chariklo wanting to talk, to be heard, to be known...