Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 21:12:20 -0600
From: (Juan Revilla)
Subject: [Centaurs] The Postman Always Rings Twice

"The Postman Always Rings Twice", written by James Cain (b.July 1, 1892 in Annapolis, Md.), was published in 1934, when he was 42, and it was his first novel. Maybe some of you remember a 1981 film starred by Jack Nicholson and Jessica Lange, which I always loved. I read a commentary (in my opinion very stupid) in the Internet that called this movie "softcore pornography", and the Britannica mentions Cain's <<violent, sexually obsessed, and relentlessly paced melodramas...>>

Does it sound centaurean? Assuming Noon GMT, this is what we find at Cain's birth:

   Sun = 10,02 Cancer
   Chariklo = 10,00 Capricorn Rx.

He died October 27, 1977:

   Nessus = 9,28 Cancer
   Sun = 2,46 Scorpio
   Chiron = 2,12 Taurus Rx.
   natal Uranus = 2,00 Scorpio

It is centaurean! When he published his hard-boiled novel, it became a spectacular success. <<Its sordid milieu, characters who seek to gain their ends through violence, and taut, fast-paced prose set the pattern for most of his later books>>

I never read the book, but the 1981 film, in a nutshell, is this: Frank Chambers is an aimless nomad that happens to come into Mr. Papadakis' restaurant and gas station outside Los Angeles to eat, and he is offered a job to attend the gas station. One of the reasons he accepts is the very beautiful and much younger wife of Papadakis, Cora. He chases her until Cora yields and they become lovers in a violent and sadistic way, and end up killing Mr. Papadakis and faking a car accident, but Frank himself almost dies when the car slips and falls into a precipice inside of it. When he is out of the hospital, Cora is now the owner of the place and he helps her in work until he gets bored and goes away with a circus woman, but he returns, as he realizes that he has ended up loving her. Frank says to her: "I love you", she answers: "No, you want to kill me". Frank's sadism and cynicism is transformed into tender affection little by little. One day Cora tells him they are going to have a child, and Frank is immensely happy and overflows in tenderness, but as they are driving home the car jumps at a stone and Cora falls out of the car and dies.

Now let's see how Jessica Lange and Jack Nicholson fit into the picture. He was born April 22, 1937, at 11 a.m. EST, and she was born April 20, 1949, at 11 a.m. CST (data from I will use the sidereal zodiac in order to make the comparison with the positions of author James Cain:

   Cain Sun = 16,48 Gemini
   Cain Chariklo = 16,47 Gemini
   Cain's death Nessus = 16,14 Gemini
   Jessica QM107 = 17,31 Gemini

   Cain Uranus = 8,46 Libra
   Cain's death Sun = 9,32 Libra
   Cain's death Chiron = 8,58 Aries
   Jack Sun = 8,14 Aries
   Jessica DW2 = 9,52 Aries

and going back to the tropical:

   Jessica Sun = 0,07 Taurus
   Jessica Venus = 1,05 Taurus
   Jessica DW2 = 3,44 Taurus

   Jessica Mars = 22,45 Aries
   Jack Sun = 24,45 Aries Rx.

   Jessica Chariklo = 7,41 Sagittarius
   Jessica Chiron = 8,10 Sagittarius
   Jack 1994TA = 7,33 Gemini

So, what do you think of the Sun/Chariklo exact opposition in James Cain's chart and of the exact Sun/DW2 conjunction between the 2 protagonists of the story? Anybody has seen this film?



Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 05:55:05 -0600
From: (Juan Revilla)
Subject: [Centaurs] Re: The Postman Always Rings Twice

Here is a comment on the movie that may help us understand what the Sun/Chariklo is about:

<<I must admit I was quite impressed with Bob Rafelson's adaptation of the depression era novel, "The Postman Always Rings Twice". Jack Nicholson plays Frank, a vagabond who eventually falls in love with a sexy waitress named Cora, played by Jessica Lange, who reciprocates this love. However, there is one problem standing in the way: Cora is married, unhappily married, but married nonetheless.
<<Aside from an intriguing story, "The Postman Always Rings Twice" is a wonderfully put together film, as Rafelson does a splendid job delving into the characters and their relationships, as well as examining the problems associated with forbidden love. As a viewer, you truly feel the passion between Lange and Nicholson,(who both won academy award nominations), and you almost feel for their pain. In the 1930's women in America were at quite a different position than they are today. They were expected to stay with the husband no matter what the circumstances, as divorce was quite uncommon. Lange was very convincing as this trapped 30's woman who eventually broke free the only way she knew possible.>> [brett lanza, West Caldwell, NJ]

The director of the film, Bob Rafelson, was born 21 Debruary 1933. Using the sidereal zodiac again to compare with writer James Cain:

   Cain's Jupiter = 28,46 Pisces
   Rafelson Nessus = 28,16 Pisces
   Jessica Lange's Mars = 28,53 Pisces

   Cain's Venus = 29,30 Gemini
   Cain's Mercury = 29,11 Gemini
   Rafelson's Chariklo = 30,56 Gemini
   Jack Nicholson's Venus = 30,53 Pisces

The involvement of Nessus "death wish" is expected, but I believe Chariklo stands out as representative of the "trapped 30's woman", the unhappily married woman who finds and outlet to her passion, however dangerous.



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