TESTING THE CHART OF ISLAM
AND THE U.S. BOYD CHART
"A really
good chart should consistently astonish
any discriminating
astrologer who puts it to the test.
A good chart
will always astonish you. Anything less
than astonishing
is a clue that there is a better chart
hiding in
some year's ephemeris and waiting to be found"
[Jimm Erickson,
American Astrology June 1991, p.58-60]
NOTE: for the data used to
make the chart of Islam see the notes at the end of this compilation
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:22:15 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam - 1
I would like to present in a series of small commentaries what
I think are very significant inter-aspects between the horoscope of Islam
and the US chart, the chart of Israel, the chart of the WTC attack, and the
date of Bin Laden's fatwa "to kill the Americans and their allies".
In order to account for precession, all the positions are in the sidereal
zodiac. As always, I try to limit myself to 1-degree orbs and to 4th-harmonic
aspects involving the Moon and the Sun. This assures that the relationships
are critical.
In my opinion, the value of this horoscope for Islam is that it
represents a much bigger and transcendental thing than simply the chart of
a specific Islamic nation or political event. I think this chart sheds
a lot of light on current events, a light that we need in order to go beyond
the brain-washing to which we are subjected by the media and the tenebrous
hypocrisy of politicians.
The "fatwa" (="judgement") was written by Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad
Bin-Ladin and faxed to Al- Quds al-'Arabi in London where it was published
in Arabic on February 23, 1998. At 12h GMT that day, the Sun was in
exact conjunction with Jupiter (remember, it is the sidereal zodiac):
Sun = 9,57 Aquarius
Jupiter = 9,51 Aquarius
This conjunction is in exact opposition to Venus in the chart
of Islam:
Venus Islam = 9,45 Leo
while in the U.S. Boyd chart (the War chart) we
find:
TF35/Cyllarus= 9,39 Leo
Pylenor = 9.15 Scorpio
First, quite objectively, we see that the Sun/Jupiter is promoting,
exalting, striving to fulfill or exploit the Venus of Islam. Sun/Jupiter and
Venus signify a concentration of feelings, an exploitation or promotion of
morality, religious feelings, a high ideal, an exaltation of what is most
dear (Venus) for a Muslim. At the same time, the Pylenor/Cyllarus involvement
in the US chart is a clear indication of:
- the US Cyllarus drags, engulfs, "kidnaps", literally "overpowers"
(conjunction) the Venus of Islam, or, seen the other way around, what is most
cherished for a Muslim (Venus) is seen as a centaurean crack of the social
order, a centaurean outcast, in the US.
- the US Pylenor squares this opposition, forming a T-cross.
This means that the whole thing becomes "Pylenorean" in a critical and compulsive
way for the US. I already developed the symbolism of Pylenor with respect
to what Palestinians are to Israelis. In this case, Pylenor's blood
is giving a strong testimony of what Bin Laden describes in his text: make
the Americans bleed for their sins!
The Text of the Fatwa says:
<<No one argues today about three
facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone
<<First, for over seven years the
United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places...
NOTE: here is a clue to the Cyllarus/Venus conjunction...
<<... the Arabian Peninsula, plundering
its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people,
NOTE: Yes! Remember that Pylenor has a lot to do with humiliation...
<<terrorizing its neighbors, and
turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight
the neighboring Muslim peoples.
<<If some people have in the past
argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula
have now acknowledged it.
<<The best proof of this is the Americans'
continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging
post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used
to that end, but they are helpless.
<<Second, despite the great devastation
inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite
the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all
this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres,
as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after
the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.
<<So here they come to annihilate
what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.
<<Third, if the Americans' aims behind
these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews'
petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder
of Muslims there.
<<The best proof of this is their
eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their
endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia,
Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness
to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade
occupation of the Peninsula.>>
Comments:
In my opinion, all of the above are true facts, as Bin Laden said.
Even more now, with the destruction of Afghanistan and the use of Pakistani
territory and airports to accomplish the disunion and weakness of Arabs even
more than before.
But the important part of the Fatwa is the moral call to all Arabs
to kill Americans and to the universal Jihad. This is related to Islamic
ideology and feelings, and I think that it is clearly described by other inter-aspects
involving Varuna and Chariklo that I will mention in the next messages.
Let's recall that Bin Laden's text was published under an exact
Sun/Jupiter conjunction in exact square with the Boyd US Pylenor:
fatwa Sun = 9,57 Aquarius
fatwa Jupiter = 9,51 Aquarius
Islam Venus = 9,45 Leo
US TF35/Cyllarus= 9,39 Leo
US Pylenor = 9.15 Scorpio
and at the time of the WTC attack, we find KX76 exactly conjunct
this US Pylenor:
WTC KX76 = 9,45 Scorpio!
This involvement of Pylenor is significant considering how clear
its role is in the Israeli-Palestinians conflict ( you can read the arguments
and data on this in my collected posts - http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/posts/mundane/palestinians.html
). It is even more acute in the case of the Islam/USA relationship. When one
calculates the Davison chart (4th January 1199, 16:03:09 GMT), one finds:
Sun = 7,40 Capricorn
Pylenor = 7,38 Cancer
We'll see if the next orbital update of Pylenor changes its position
for 1199 AD, although only a small change of a few arcminutes is theoretically
expected. Meanwhile, one can say calmly that the role of Pylenor here is very
important and illuminating.
Juan
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:34:00 -0600
Subject: Re: AW: [centaurresearchproject] testing the chart of Islam - 1
<<What is the source of this fatwa-text,
were did you get it?>>
It is in the Internet:
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm
(in English translation)
http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/fatw2.htm
(In the original Arabic)
you can also find it in:
Summary/Review of Reports Concerning Threats by Osama Bin Laden
to Conduct Terrorist Operations Against the United States and/or her Allies
- 02 Feb 98 to 16 Jun 98 (includes original February "fatwa")
"LOS ANGELES TIMES PICK" <<This article was awarded a "Times
Pick" by the Los Angeles Times on 8/24/98.>>
"http://www.latimes.com/HOME/BUSINESS/PICK/"
[...]
Juan
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:21:57 -0600
Subject: Re: [Centaurs] Anti-Americanism: stimulus and response
[...]
The quote from the Fatwa is the substantiation of the aspects
I was examining and trying to interpret. I had the option of not quoting
anything, but I thought people would be interested in reading it to see how
close the words matched the aspects. I was wrong.
If you don't agree with my interpretation of the aspects, or if
you think that comparing the Boyd chart of the US with the chart of Islam
and using the sidereal reference frame (the only one with which I always
work), is not valid, then say it, and please dare to give us your own alternative
interpretation and astrological insights. [...]
How much nonsense for having said that I agree with that part
of what Bin Laden wrote. It is nonsense to pretend to be objective
in these matters, and any astrological interpretation of political events
is a political act and statement by itself.
I am not sorry for having expressed my political conviction. It
is easy to criticize somebody's work or ideas, but please do it with your
equivalent alternative interpretative work.
Juan
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:30:29 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] and testing the chart of ...
In Islam there is a very personal and intimate relationship with
God and with the "holy places". This personal intimate involvement
can be seen in every Muslim going to his knees head on the ground in the
direction of the holy place at the time of prayer every day, in whatever
part of the world they are. This in my opinion is clearly Venusian,
personal, intimate, ruled by strong affection and a feeling of submission.
These are Venusian traits.
Furthermore, the Fatwa Sun is very directly involved making the
exact opposition. You may think that the Fatwa (the Sun that illuminates
this Venus) is a mere propagandist pamphlet, yet what it is saying in this
context about the violation of their holy places by Americans is in my view
a very objective reality, and I don't see how it can be denied or ignored.
That the US and the other world powers work strongly and covertly
to politically and economically debilitate and divide these countries, as
far as I am concerned is a fact demonstrated by many political analysts, many
of them Americans. It is a fact also in my own country and region.
In this context, I think the involvement of the 2 centaurs in
the Boyd US "War" chart speaks for itself, especially Pylenor which is better
known and appears critically twice, in the Fatwa chart synastry and in the
Davison USA/Islam chart. This Boyd US chart has been sufficiently tested
over the years and I don't think there is a need to justify its use.
Speaking about morality and "evil" makes no sense to me when so
much harm is done by the refusal to view things from the Muslim point of
view and to understand their own sense of morality. America it seems
is the incarnation of evil for many if not a majority of Muslims, and I am
not interested in being critical about this; I am interested in seeing things
from their point of view with the help of Astrology, because I think this
is what is badly needed.
My object of interest is mainly the Muslim world, that I want
to understand better, not --for the moment-- the World according to the American
people or to the American victims of terrorism, or to the American press
releases, or to Mr. Bush, to which I am exposed everyday in the TV. That
is another subject.
I am strongly critical against US foreign interventions and against
the attitude that pretends to see only-evil in "terrorists", without showing
any interest in why this terrorism exists or what are its causes, or refusing
to see the responsibility they have in creating it, or the terrorism coming
from this side of the fence. Nothing is black and white, and this is not "good
vs evil" at all. I also explained in my post that the rest of Bin Laden's
Fatwa, the moral aspect, was going to be examined in other messages.
I do not object this subject being banned from this forum. I will
accept that. Meanwhile, those who dislike the way I think, can hit the delete
key.
Juan
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:26:15 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam - 2
Let's remember how important looks Varuna in Islam (Fagan/Bradley
sidereal zodiac):
Sun = 19,53 Cancer
Varuna = 18,58 Cancer
which as I have mentioned is a "glorified" Varuna. When commenting
this aspect time ago, the strong personal submission to a "divine will" or
"divine law", inherent in the Arabic meaning of the word "Islam" itself,
surfaced as a clear implication of it. I also mentioned back then (you can
read all my commentaries collected in http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/posts/notes/varuna.html
) that in Islamic jurisprudence the law or "Shariah" is imposed from above
by God and was revealed by Muhammad many centuries ago, contrary to the Western
systems where the law evolves in response to the needs of society, and that
I believed this "fixism" or fundamentalism was also an expression of Varuna
conjunct the Sun.
This means, to me, that "the law" for a Muslim has generally a
different meaning than it has for us. It has a very strong, personal, intimate
meaning, inextricable from spiritual or religious obligation, from being
a servant of God. A Muslim state is therefore by definition a religious state,
and the individual self (the Sun) "disappears" as a result of a <<total
and unqualified submission to the will of Allah>> (this phrase is how
the Britannica describes the fundamental tenet of Islam).
In my view, perhaps the two most revealing inter-aspects that
we find from the comparisons I am dealing with are the ones I already mentioned:
Pluto in the chart of Israel (May 14 1948) = 18,38 Cancer
transiting TL66 right now = 19,05 Aries
Since the Pluto aspect refers to the birth chart of Israel, then
we have what can be considered a permanent situation, something that is "by
definition" a question of life and death (Sun/Pluto). We know it is. We know
how much "death" (Pluto) has to do with it: death to Israel, or death to
Palestinians?
I can see in this Pluto contact the terrorism from both sides,
the abuses of all kinds... it is a sign of a fundamentally irreconciliable
division at the heart of Islam (the Sun), something that was Plutonically
and militarily imposed from above, an insult to what is most fundamental
to a Muslim (the Sun). We also see that Islam becomes the personification
of Pluto for the Israeli state, could we say the incarnation of its struggle
for survival?
The US Boyd chart has Mercury here:
US Mercury = 18,35 Cancer
It suggests to me that the US involvement in this conflict is
detached, something like a witness, a learning experience, a focus of interest,
etc. There may be other more profound implications, represented by Mercury/Pluto
and dealing with logistics, intelligence, etc. I am not sure what to make
of this aspect.
From the centaurs point of view, a very significant relationship
appears in the date of Bin Laden's Fatwa:
Fatwa Chariklo = 18,14 Cancer
I welcome anything you can say about this one and any other aspect
I have been mentioning. It is preposterous to criticize my interpretations
when no one dares to make another one.
My feeling goes in the direction of Chariklo representing the
"moral bond" or commitment, the dedication requested, being rather dark and
linked to death, the death of Islamic children and the darkness of Islamic
sacred places, and the corresponding death of Americans and their allies
in the name of divine justice. The commitment or moral bond to the intention
to kill American civilians is a sort of dark marriage with God, the motivation
of which is the mourning of their own families. This is (or may be) Chariklo.
You can read in my site (in Spanish) about a somewhat similar
Chariklo relationship in the case of the revolutionary Emiliano Zapata, whose
Sun was in exact conjunction with the national Chariklo of Mexico.
But the call to the Jihad in the Fatwa is morea legal matter,
an appeal to the higher divine will of Allah. In Islamic jurisprudence, there
is no difference between the 2 things.
According to the editors of the Fatwa (I will no longer quote
it, you can find the whole text with commentaries it in the L.A. Times site
at http://www.latimes.com/HOME/BUSINESS/PICK/
), a fatwa is legally binding if:
1) It is in line with relevant legal proofs, deducted from Koranic
verses and hadiths;
2) It is issued by a person (or a board) having due knowledge and sincerity
of heart;
3) It is free from individual opportunism, and not depending on political
servitude;
4) It is adequate with the needs of the contemporary world.
This type of higher, pre-established legal principles is Varunian
(recall the Supreme Court deciding the US presidency at the time Varuna was
discovered). Bin Laden is appealing to it, and his "Varunian" vision of America
as the seat of evil is and has been shared by many other Muslims in many
different countries. This "judgement" upon the US, or the US actions
that have originated it, are perhaps related to the following:
Moon of Islam = 21,33 Leo
US Varuna (Boyd chart) = 20,38 Leo
US Varuna (July 4th 1776) = 21,39 Leo
This works both sides. There is a strong sense of moral superiority
(Varuna) in the way Americans judge the Arab world (the Moon of Islam). In
fact, both attacks on Irak and on Afghanistan are justified in the name of
"Justice", and of course Americans are the judges. I think this is eloquently
described in the above aspect.
Juan
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:04:27 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] on methodology and the Boyd chart
The fact that the majority of astrologers do not endorse the USA
Boyd chart, or, as has become evident, don't know enough about it, doesn't
mean that it is not valid or "legitimate". It has had a very long verification
and validation process, but I do not think that its validity means that other
charts are not valid. I don't see this as an either/or question.
There is no need to try to "prove" one in order to invalidate
the other, or to prove that one is superior to the other. My opinion
is that the Declaration of War (Boyd) chart and the Declaration of Idependence
are equally valid charts (I like especially the Sibley chart), depending on
the point of view, and that at times of War the Boyd chart is probably, by
sheer logic, more significant. I believe the 4th of July chart is more
mythical and it relates more to the American people, and as I said, the Boyd
chart is a more accurate, less mythical description.
Before continuing, I will tell you exactly how I proceeded, methodologically.
In my notebooks, each page has 36 or 37 lines, and it is very
convenient to put long lists of positions together in columns so that I can
examine them for inter-aspects. Since I was dealing with the chart of Islam,
I had a list of 31 objects that represent the full list available from Riyal
for the year 622 AD. This list comprises the following:
- the 10 planets
- the lunar node, the Asc., MC. and the osculating lunar apogee or
Black Moon
- those centaurs having accurate enough orbits to be calculated to 622 AD,
and given by Riyal. This includes 7 named centaurs (incl. Pylenor),
plus 6 without a name (QM107, BU48, PT13, QC243, TF35, and UG5). As
noted in my presentation of the chart of Islam, the position of Chiron is
doubtful and I don't use it even though it is listed.
- 4 transneptunians: KX76, TD10, TL66, and Varuna.
I listed all positions in the sidereal zodiac in order to account
for precession in the comparisons, and built the columns downwards in my
notebook object by object, producing 8 parallel columns that made the finding
of interaspects easier. The 8 columns, as I have them before me right
now, in the order in which I made them, are:
1- Islam: 16 July 622, 16:05:38 GMT, 39e36/24n28
2- Israel: 14 May 1948, 14:15:07 GMT, 34e36/32n04
3- USA Sibley chart: 4 July 1776, 22:50 GMT, 75w10/39n57 (from N. Campion)
4- WTC attack: 11 September 2001, 12:46:26 GMT, 74w01/41n43
5- USA Boyd chart: 6 July 1775, 16:00:40 GMT, 75w10/39n57
6- Bin Laden's Fatwa: 23 February 1998, 12h GMT, no place, no Moon.
7- USA-Boyd/Islam Davison chart: 4 January 1199, 16:03:09 GMT, no place
8- Islam/Israel Davison chart: 8 June 1285, 15:10:23 GMT, no place
there are 2 other columns that I have not made yet:
9- Islam/WTC attack Davison chart: 6 February 1312, 14:26:02
GMT
10- USA Boyd/WTC attack Davison chart: 8 August 1888, 14:23:33 GMT
With the exception of the Sibley chart, and the Davison charts
that were calculated with Riyal, the rest of this data has been presented
in my posts.
The order of the columns reflects my interests and the main focus
of my mind at the moment.
The aspects I looked for were 1-degree conjunctions, oppositions,
and squares involving the Sun, the Moon, and the lunar apogee. I felt
I should discard the lunar node because it was too neutral for the strong
indicators I was looking for, and I also discarded the Asc and MC because
they are not so certain in these cases nor so vital as the Sun or the Moon.
The only thing new in my methodology was the use of the Davison chart, which
was mentioned at the end only and practically as an addendum.
At this time, I had never studied the Boyd chart myself, although
I had read a lot about it throughout the years, beginning in the late 70's
in an astrological magazine called "The Aquarian Agent", but mainly in the
pages of American Astrology, where there are brilliant articles by Jimm Erickson
and Jim Lewis. Using this chart, Jimm Erickson had made in 1990 a spectacularly
successful prediction of the Gulf War that you can check in the pages of
that magazine. These articles represent in my opinion the best that can be
read on political astrology.
I have never doubted its validity, and felt this was the time
to try it myself, since the aspects of the 4th of July 1776 chart had not
been very convincing to me so far. The fact that it was chosen among the
selected ones in Astrodatabank encouraged me to include it in the exploration
I was going to make, thinking that this was going to give it validity to those
not familiar with it.
Since I wanted to try the Boyd chart, I decided to make the Davison
charts to it, and see if something significant appeared. And there it was
to my amazement: the exact Sun/Pylenor opposition in its relationship with
Islam! That was very significant, and gave me confidence in using it.
Yesterday, I sat down and began to write. I had a selection of
aspects but I didn't know what I was going to say concretely. There was one
thing, however, that I had in mind: I would try to figure out the interpretations
having the contrary, Muslim point of view as focus. For this reason, I started
with Bin Laden's Fatwa, realizing that it would help me focus on the Arab
or Muslim point of view, which was (is) my main interest. There is too much
worthless speculation about the birth chart of Bin Laden, yet here we have
a concrete date that can shed light on him.
The whole endeavor had the chart of Islam as a focus. I wrote
in my message about the Sun/Jupiter conjunction in 9 Aquarius of the Fatwa
but had to stop there because I didn't have anything else at that moment.
I then looked more carefully and found the contacts I mentioned. There were
no significant contacts with the 4th of July chart, so it was evident that
the Fatwa against Americans was "being directed" toward the Boyd chart. This
chart spoke eloquently about Bin Laden's admonition to kill Americans and
about Americans unquestionable (to me) actions against Islam, while the 4th
of July chart was silent, according to the same methodology I have used for
years.
I don't like posts that consist of only positions without reasoning
and without interpretative analysis. I don't need to repeat what my
feelings and political convictions are here, except that all interpretations
done by astrologers are subjective, and reflect the culture of the astrologer.
This is especially the case of interpretative astrological analysis of political
events. I explained my reasoning, presented the relevant data, saw and mentioned
the "exploitation" possibility of Jupiter, but focused in understanding what
this Venus of Islam being exhorted or exploited meant to Islamic people.
It was very evident that the critical involvement of the centaurs
Pylenor and TF35 in the USA "War" chart was describing the situation presented
by the Fatwa, and that's why I decided to post the part of it that I thought
was descriptive of the aspects mentioned, and with which I happened to agree.
That part of the Fatwa quoted is something that is, in my view, in the hearts
of many Muslims, and I see a remarkable description of it in the centaur
aspects mentioned.
About Cyllarus: unlike Pylenor, I don't know what its characteristics
are. When writing about its conjunction with the Venus of Islam, since
this is no love affair, I had some generic centaur characteristics in mind,
particularly very Plutonian centaurs like TF35, and I just referred to the
meaning of the conjunction.
Juan
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:11:39 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 3
In a message of Sept. 24th, I mentioned the symbolism of
the Black Moon. Let me repeat part of what I wrote then:
<<... the (true) Black Moon I think shows the "dark side"
of things, that which is denied or never said, disposed of or "hidden".>>
<<The Black Moon symbolism is almost always seen only from
the individual perspective, but it has an obvious collective side, especially
in the cases of mass behavior such as this. It is related to the "dark" or
"occult" side of the Moon, the herd instinct, the irrational, the movement
and power of the masses, the return to the collective womb.>>
<<This "return to the womb" is what we have been seeing
happening in the US after the attack, i.e., go back to the most collective
symbols and emotions...>>
At the time of the WTC attack, the true Black Moon was in line
with the US Boyd Neptune (sidereal)
WTC Black Moon = 28,09 Aquarius
US (Boyd) Neptune =28,41 Leo.
Now take a look at the position of Mars in the Fatwa of Bin Laden:
Fatwa Mars = 28,09 Aquarius
in exact conjunction with the Black Moon of the attack. In the
chart of Islam, we find:
Uranus = 25,45 Leo
Neptune = 29,42 Leo
midpoint = 27,44 Leo
I develop the symbolism of the osculating Black Moon in http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html.
The economic and ideological basis of the Neptunian symbolism is explained
by one of the fathers of American astrology, Marc Edmund Jones, and I have
extracted the relevant passages that you can read in http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/posts/notes/neptune.html.
The World Trade Center was (is) the strongest material symbol
of American capitalism and "economic pride". And indeed, after the attack,
we have seen what can be interpreted as a "regression" of the economy, in
line with the true Black Moon. This regression may not be caused only by
the attack of Sept. 11th, but that day certainly became a very dramatic symbol
or reference point for it. Even the crumbling of the building itself is a
manifestation of the Black Moon "swallowing" the 2 towers like a whirlpool,
as well as the collective hysteria and terror that came as a result. All this
is part of the collective Black Moon.
Neptune is close to the horizon in the US Boyd chart, signifying,
from one perspective, the deceptive or blurred vision that Americans have
of the role of the US in other parts of the world. Neptune rules the economic
interdependence of a global community, and also the more or less unconscious
self-justifying ideologies that perpetuate human injustice and misery.
The US systematically violates the principles on which it was constituted
(the 4th of July Declaration of Independence) when dealing with other poor
nations, and <<condons repression, torture,
and inhuman disregard of civil rights in its various "client states" around
the world>>.
The above phrase can be read in an analysis of the Uranus/Neptune
conjunction written by the late Jim Lewis in the American Astrology Digest
of 1991. This "dark side" of Neptune is, in my opinion, being dramatized
by what is happening now. The 2 towers were a very strong Neptunian symbol
because they represented the corporate global elites whose policies directly
exploit and impoverish many poor countries around the world, and the dark
military and economic motivations of this and of the Gulf War that contrast
dramatically with the self-promoted image of a society of freedom and the
law.
You won't be able to accuse brilliant astrologers like Jim Lewis
and many others, and brilliant magazines like "American Astrology", of being
anti-American. Yet the fiercest criticisms that I have read toward the American
government and toward the distorted self-image Americans have of themselves
as a nation, come from them.
The point here, to me, is that astrologers, traditionally and
speaking in general only (there are notable exceptions), lack the economic
and socio-cultural critical conscience necessary to analyze political and
economical events.
The above, I think, illustrates some of the areas in which the
USA-Boyd Neptune works.
Juan
ADDENDUM
The following is the last part of the message to which I referred
referred above. It must be added to complement my thoughts on this subject:
"History --I think-- shows how this centaurean conflict surfaces:
that fallacious, warped, distorted and stereotyped image of the Arab world
that sees Muslims as fanatics, less evolved, terrorists, etc. In fact, this
is an attitude the US has always had toward minorities within itself (stereotypes
about blacks, Hispanics, etc.). The square of the Sun with the centaurs represents
the need to conquer and to impose, to block and impede development, which
is the characteristic of the US (and of Europe) internationally, with respect
to Third World countries.
"Whoever doubts this, I suggest reading Phillip Knightley &
Colin Simpson's "The Secret Lives of Lawrence of Arabia" London: Panther
Books, 1971, based on previously secret released material documentation
about T. E. Lawrence's mission in the Arab world for the sake of British interests
and as a spy working for the Secret Service. One thing is what is said to
the Press, something very different is what is really done or intended. I
comment this case in http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/essays/predators.html
"Under a solar square like this, the centaur surfaces as "the
devil", you (the Sun) are confronting "evil" (the centaur), which is but
a projection of your own inner evil (Sun square the centaur). The extreme
fanaticism is inside, it is the Sun's vision that is thwarted by what it
cannot understand: the workings of the centaurs in Islamic society.
"There are certain aspects of terrorism that average Americans
and Europeans have a hard time understanding, having to do with the attitude
towards death, and, in this case, since it is the Sun that is involved, with
the attitude towards individuality. These two things have a very different
meaning for the persons who hijacked the planes and crashed them because they
come from a different culture, a different set of values regarding death
and the importance of the individual person.
"Mostly, they come from a culture of death, perpetuated unto the
present by the deliberate and oppressive actions of powerful countries (like
the US in this case) that have always strove to dominate them with extreme
cruelty and harshness. Dying, as St. Paul would say, is for them a gain, not
a loss, and the individual is dispensable for the sake of the nation or the
dream they love.
"As Brad Pitt would say to Harrison Ford before dying in his arms:
<<remember, I told you, this is not the American
dream... it is the Irish dream...">>
" ...or the Arab dream.
"There are terrorists in the Arab world, as there are in the U.S.
Those usually work for the CIA. And there are thousands of brain-washed persons
in every society: they are called soldiers.
"Juan"
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:27:15 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 3b
Mundane specialist Michael O'Reilly (a tropical, not a sidereal
astrologer) makes the following comments about the chart of Islam (ref.:
American Astrology, April 1991, p. 35):
<<What is clear --and of fundamental
concern to astrologers-- is that Islam's birth chart still rings true in the
20th century.
<<As a geopolitical entity, this chart
also responds to the borderless Arab Nation, first popularized by Egyptian
President Gamal Abdel Nasser. As Nasser, and later other Arab dictators
such as Colonel Kaddafi of Lybia, Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran and Iraq's Saddam
Hussein, have explained, the Arab people belong to one nation. The current
political borders were established by European Imperialists (the French and
British) after World War I, and were designed to divide and subjugate the
Arab people.>>
This is part of what Bin Laden said in his fatwa that I quoted,
and with which I agreed. Of the Uranus/Neptune conjunction in tropical Virgo:
<<Islam's birth chart features
the Uranus-Neptune conjunction in practical and orderly Virgo, opposed to
a transcendent Jupiter in Pisces. Mohammed's mission as he saw it was to
create heaven on earth. In his later years the messages he received turned
from the cosmic to the mundane and he preached administrative justice and
an equitable distribution of resources. Such teachings have been used by
subsequent generations to justify social upheaval and popular revolution
(the Moon is conjunct Uranus). As of this writing in September 1990, Saddam
Hussein uses these same words to rally Middle East Arabs against the wealthy
Saudis and Kuwaitis.>>[ibid., p.34]
Now, Bin Laden uses them to exhort Arabs to kill Americans:
Fatwa Mars = 28,09 Aquarius
Black Moon WTC = 28,09 Aquarius
Chiron WTC = 28,17 Scorpio
Islam Uranus = 25,45 Leo
Islam Neptune = 29,42
Leo midpoint - 27,44 Leo
USA Neptune = 28,41 Leo
Juan
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:35:23 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 4
Recall the quote from the Britannica in my message on the formation
of Israel 80 years ago:
<<In April 1920, at the Conference
of San Remo, the Allies divided the former territories of the defeated Ottoman
Empire...>>
This conference was very important for all Islamic countries,
and in my opinion, of all the historical reference points that we can find
to chart the origins of the present political situation, this is the most
symbolical. Straight lines were drawn on a map and the allies negotiated the
military control of the Arab countries among themselves. The Suez Canal and
the vast oil resources were of supreme strategic and military importance (such
as is Afghanistan today), and Arab national interests were ignored or stepped
upon, even though the good intentions were on paper. Neither France nor Britain
had the slightest intention of giving up their domination over the region;
it was their war prize.
According to the Britannica, the conference in the Italian riviera
lasted from April 19 to April 26, 1920. During these days, Mars was very
strong in the sky, retrograde and in opposition to the Sun. The exact opposition
was on the 21th at 8h44m GMT, the 3rd day of the conference:
Mars = 7,18 Libra (sidereal)
Sun = 7, 18 Aries
This Mars was in exact conjunction with Hylonome in the chart
of Islam:
Hylonome of Islam = 6,37 Libra
Remember some of my keywords for Hylonome: "the sacrificial
victim", "the cry of the poor"...
Now, as a curiosity, remember the Sun Pylenor opposition in the
USA/Islam relationship:
Sun = 7,40 Capricorn
Pylenor = 7,38 Cancer
perfectly aligned with the Sun/Mars opposition of the conference
of San Remo. I said "curiosity" because the US did not participate in that
conference. What could be the role of the US in the situation symbolized by
the conference? The only thing that comes to mind is:
one axis of the cross = Britain/France, 1920-1950 = Sun/Mars
second axis of the cross = U.S.A., 1950-2001 = Sun/Pylenor
In a post by Jonathan Dunn dated October 9, we could read some
speculations about the "80 years" mentioned twice by Bin Laden in a broadcast
(NOTE: this tape, most probably, makes reference to the Embassy attacks of
1998, not the WTC attack last September):
<<In his videotape broadcast, Osama
Bin Laden made two references to "80 years." The first: "What America is
tasting now is only a copy of what we have tasted. Our Islamic nation has
been tasting the same for more than 80 years, of humiliation and disgrace,
its sons killed and their blood spilled, its sanctities desecrated." Later,
Osama repeated the temporal reference, saying "the sword fell upon America
after 80 years." What's he talking about? What happened around 80 years ago?>>
Here is again the same concept, or rather, feeling: <<humiliation
and disgrace>>, which I have said is related to Pylenor, and which
was evident in Israeli/Palestinian history (ref.: http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/posts/mundane/palestinians.html
). We also showed how the Fatwa of Bin Laden (Sun/Jupiter 9 Aquarius) exhorting
the Venus of Islam (9 Leo) was a direct attack and reference to the Pylenor
(and TF35) position in the US "War" chart (9 Scorpio), which was the position
ok KX76 in the WTC attack. Now consider the position of Pylenor in the Conference
of San Remo, taking its end the 26th of April as reference:
Pylenor at San Remo = 9,34 Aquarius
exactly in conjunction with the Sun/Jupiter of the Fatwa, etc.
Juan
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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 06:45:59 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 5
The following are some philosophical reflections on methodology.
Often, in political astrology, a chart is sought that can be used
as a sort of "absolute" reference point or radical with which to analyze
the astrology of a country or a nation. This practice comes from natal astrology,
which is based on "the birth-chart paradigm", which to me, is actually a
dogma that hinders the exploration of other ways of making the astrological
measurement or charting of an individual life. Inherent to this, is a specific
philosophical conception of man, and also a particularly lineal conception
of time based on the metaphor of a seed that would have been completely alien
to a Babylonian or to anyone used to the ever changing, ever-recurring
patterns in the sky.
We tend to believe that a country can have only one "birth chart",
and we establish theoretically what this chart is through an a-priori reasoning
based on what might be the "foundation time". We then try to disregard all
other possible charts, thinking that --like a human being-- a nation cannot
have different "birth charts" at the same time. But I think that this is
wrong even in the case of an individual human being, unless we are stuck
in a biological conception of astrology that is being constantly contradicted
by our practice and by the nature of our tools. Anyway, any biological conception
of "the mechanism" of astrology cracks in the face of mundane astrology,
and yet we still pretend to apply to it the canons or dogmas or paradigms
of natal astrology.
Jimm Erickson proposes a different view: that the chart we use
is not forced upon us by an arbitrary a-priori decision based on logic, but
that it be the one that measures both the past and the future best. What
is at stake here is the concept of what constitutes an event, what makes
it "significant".
An event does not exist by itself. It exists as such because we
make it so, and its significance is the result of a subjective-cultural process
inside the mind. In other words, an event is not something "objective", and
this is nowhere better illustrated than in political astrology. Often, the
chart that works best is that of a merely symbolical "event", and not the
one that we would expect as a result of our a-priori pre-conceptions, or
rather, prejudices.
The date of Bin Laden's Fatwa as well as the US Boyd chart are
examples of this.
Furthermore, the nature of political events is very fluid, one
significant event grows on the other without making it disappear, one chart
"rules" until it is substituted by another, but the prior chart does not
"die", as ideas do not die but are renovated and transformed.
The chart of Islam is an example of this.
Ultimately, a human being, in its spiritual and psychological
reality, is the same. We are fluid beings in the stream of time. This, I
think, is what the discovery of the centaurs points at: there is no "ultimate"
spiritual or psychological reference point, the "self" or "the ego" is not
a point of rest or of "security"; we are existential nomads living daily
with existential death, forever overflowing ourselves, cracking our own paradigms,
being dead and alive at the same time, dying with the other, living with
the other...
So why astrology should be so far away from this reality and pretend
to reduce everything to one single birth moment? Why it cannot be also fluid
like the reality it pretends to elucidate?
Astrologer Clay Reed puts it like this:
<<Given the enormous amount of
information available to astrologers, we take for granted that birth chart
information is to be given de facto priority. That's a mistake. Certainly
some elements of the birth chart deserve relative priority, but the possibility
remains that much information derived from birth charts is ultimately less
important than other astrological data...
<<Even non-astrologers would admit
that a change in the timing of a link in a causal chain will have long-term
effects on the timing of future links. Astrology offers a method of evaluating
this otherwise unknowable effect. Astrology is at root the study of the significance
of "when". But if every astrological datum rooted in the "when" of birth
is given de facto priority, we diminish this very concept; only one "when"
is allowed to be so important, and every other "when" is demoted.
<<I assert that the birth does not
hold the key to its own "synthesis". The significant points in the chart
only become so, as the result of outside conditions which are entirely independent
of both the individual and his or her chart.>> (American Astrology,
April 1991, p.50)
Here is a quotation from Alexandra David-Neel & Lama Yongden's
"The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects":
<<The word "event" must not be
taken in the sense it is understood in ordinary language, that is to say
as meaning a fact of exceptional importance as when one speaks of a "historical
event". Event here means "something which happens". These somethings arising
instantaneously and in series, these rapid flashes of energy are sufficiently
like one another during the series to remain imperceptible to us, then suddenly
occurs, in this series of moments, a different moment which catches our attention
and makes us think that a new object has appeared.>>
The above is given by astrologer Kenneth Irving in his review
of Jimm Erickson's contribution to "The Astrology of the Macrocosm"
(ed. Joan McEvers). The review says:
<<Erickson proposes that any particular
"event" chosen as a starting point (e.g. the "birth chart" of a country or
political movement) can be seen as a set of transits to another "event" chart
in the past.>> (American Astrology, June 1991, p.21)
In other words, and I agree completely with them:
1- any significant event is not a "cause", but a "sign"
2- one moment of time becomes the radical of other moments, which in turn
become radicals of other more.
I do not think that political astrology consists only of analyzing
birth charts of individuals or of nations, it is also analyzing the charts
of significant, "cathartic" events that dominate the atmosphere for a certain
time until they are substituted by others, and seeing how the different events
at different moments of time interact with each other. The past is never
dead. It is history, like a river that carries its origin and its end into
the present. The past and the future are in constant interaction.
Change the word "cathartic" for "epiphanical", and we can apply
the same concept to natal astrology.
Juan
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 07:46:17 -0600
Subject: Re: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 3c
Michael O'Reilly (see my former message): "What is clear --and
of fundamental concern to astrologers-- is that Islam's birth chart still
rings true in the 20th century. As a geopolitical entity, this chart also
responds to the borderless Arab Nation..."
This is confirmed by the article in the Britannica, which describes
it with the following words:
<<The vast variety of races and
cultures embraced by Islam (estimated to total 600,000,000 to 700,000,000
persons worldwide) has produced important internal differences. All segments
of Muslim society, however, are bound by a common faith and a sense of belonging
to a single community. With the loss of political power during the period
of Western colonialism in the 19th and 20th centuries, the concept of the
Islamic community ("ummah"), instead of weakening, became stronger. The faith
of Islam helped various Muslim peoples in their struggle to gain political
freedom in the mid 20th century and the unity of Islam contributed to later
political solidarity.>>
Michael O'Reilly: "Islam's birth chart features the Uranus-Neptune
conjunction in practical >and orderly Virgo, opposed to a transcendent
Jupiter in Pisces. Mohammed's mission as he saw it was to create heaven on
earth. In his later years the messages he received turned from the cosmic
to the mundane..."
The Britannica explains it like this:
<<In AD 622, when the prophet fled
to Medina, his preaching was soon accepted, and the community-state of Islam
emerged. During this early period , Islam acquired its characteristic ethos
as religion uniting in itself both the spiritual and temporal aspects of
life in seeking to regulate not only the individual's relationship to God
(through his conscience) but human relationships in a social setting as well.
Thus, there is not only an Islamic religious institution but also an Islamic
law, state, and other institutions governing society. Not until the 20th century
were the religious (private) and the secular (public) distinguished by some
Muslim thinkers and separated formally, as in Turkey.
<<This dual religious and social character
of Islam, expressing itself in one way as a religious community commissioned
by God to bring its own value system to the world through the "jihad" ("holy
war" or "holy struggle"), explains the astonishing success of the early generations
of Muslims. Within a century after the Prophet's death in AD 632, they had
brought a large part of the globe --from Spain across Central Asia to India--
under a new Arab Muslim empire.>>
The Uranus/Neptune conjunction happening just after the Gulf War
(remember the "New World" Christmass present to Americans of George Bush)
brought the chart of Islam to a new focus. Jim Lewis had this to say:
<<It is noteworthy that the founding
of Islam occurred 4 years before a conjunction of Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune,
an exceedingly rare aspect that just recurred in 1989. The only other occurrence
of this triple conjunction in modern history happened in 1307, at which time
the Crusades were running out of gas (figuratively), and the Moslems
were reclaiming their lands from Western European domination. The recent
eventuality of this conjunction and its association with Islam should be
factored into any long-range prognostication of who will ultimately prevail
in the current attempt to secure dominance over the area.>>[ref.: "The Mideast Crisis", part II, American Astrology,
March 1991, p.28]
Needless to say, he wrote this months before its publication,
when "Desert Storm" had not been launched. I wonder what his analysis would
be of the present situation, had not he died so early.
Juan
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:45:32 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 6
I would like to examine now the aspects dealing with the Gulf
War against Iraq. A detailed chronology of "Desert Storm" is found in "American
Astrology", June, 1991, pp.17-18. I will deal with only 2 dates: 17 January
1991 2:30 a.m. Baghdad time (bombardment of Baghdad starts, beginning of
the war), and its antecedent, 2 August 1990, 2:00 a.m. Baghdad time (Iraq
invades Kuwait). These I think represent the 2 faces of the conflict: Arab
attacks Arab, USA attacks Arab.
The first thing I want to mention is an aspect that first surprised
me:
Sun Islam = 19,53 Cancer
Venus Desert Storm = 20,07 Capricorn
I thought: what does such a war has to do with Venus? Then I remembered
the fatwa of Bin Laden, which is the reverse:
Sun fatwa = 9,57 Aquarius
Venus Islam = 9,45 Leo
and thought that the meaning of an opposition like this could
be seen as a "split". The Sun of the fatwa exhorts the fundamental values
of Islam (Venus), but the square of the US Pylenor and the exact opposition
of US TF35 conjunct Islam's Venus can be seen as dramatizing a "split", i.e.,
Islam is exhorted but sees from a distance (opposition) the murderous intentions
of the Fatwa (the Sun challenging or attacking the US centaurs, esp. the "bloodiest"
of them - Pylenor.). Even though the centaurean humiliation of Islam's Venus
is acute (square of US War Pylenor) and the abuse is very direct (conjunction
of US War TF35), the exhortation is seen indirectly, from a distance. It
is not immediate (conjunction), but is critically mediated by the US Pylenor
as focus of the T-cross.
In Desert Storm, it is the Sun of Islam that is involved, Islam's
integrity and "destiny", its individuality or strength. So what does the
Venus of "Desert Storm" represents that is "exalting" Islam's Sun? (suggestions
are welcomed...)
Perhaps it has to do with Kuwait's "riches", i.e., the control
(Sun) of Islam's greatest material asset: oil. It is seeing the Sun from
a distance, saying to the Sun "you won't have me", tempting it, dramatizing
"the plunder" of Islam's riches mentioned by the fatwa?. There is nothing
mediating this opposition, it remains totally ambivalent, unlike the fatwa,
which is square Pylenor...
The answer about this mediation, the key to this opposition, is
found in the following:
Iraq invades Kuwait:
Pluto = 20,22 Libra
in exact square to the above. The meaning of this Pluto becomes
more clear when we realize that it is in opposition with Mars, so that we
have:
Sun Islam = 19,53 Cancer
Varuna of Islam = 18,58 Cancer
Pluto invasion of Kuwait = 20,22 Libra
Mars invasion of Kuwait = 18,38 Aries
Pluto of Israel = 18,38 Cancer
Node of Israel = 20,00 Aries
Venus Desert Storm = 20,07 Capricorn
Mercury US = 18,35 Cancer
Chariklo Fatwa = 18,14 Cancer
Desert Storm Venus, then, is not "alone" at all, its hidden meaning
is "cracked" or revealed by the Mars/Pluto opposition of the invasion of Kuwait,
the US Mercury, and the lunar node and Pluto of Israel, and was "condensed"
by the Chariklo of the Fatwa. There is a lot to meditate here, but I have
a feeling that the involvement of Venus suggests that the rest of the Arab
nations rejected Saddam Hussein's actions, repudiated them (Venus).
I also feel that Venus hints at the "death" or painful separation
from something that is very dear. When I have encountered a transit similar
to this involving Pluto and Venus, it describes a situation when you are ending
a relationship, the day when you are starting your emotional death, when
you have your loved one no more. This may be a clue to what the Fatwa mentions:
after Desert Storm or beginning from it, the "Holy Land" is theirs no more,
it is being violated by the US military presence, and is being used to inflict
damage and pain on Islamic people.
There are multiple levels of meaning of this Venus, many possibilities.
Perhaps its being made focal both by the Fatwa and by Desert Storm is pointing
in the same direction, perhaps it is that part of the Arab world that is most
wanted and lusted by the Western economic powers: oil (not oil physically,
but its condition as an asset, which is ruled by Venus).
more on Desert Storm later.
Juan
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:50:38 -0600
Subject: Re: [Centaurs] Re: testing the chart of Islam, 6
I have tried to add the word "sidereal" after the first position
in all the posts, but sometimes I forget. On several places I have explained
that the sidereal zodiac is used all around in order to account for precession.
This will produce a difference of 1 degree for every 72 years that separate
any two charts being compared.
I do not care for the sidereal or tropical sign meanings, and
am not interested in the usual sidereal-tropical controversy, since I use
them both. I only care (for the moment) for the relative angular distances.
Logically, the use of precession-corrected positions will make it impossible
for others to reproduce my results with the chart of Islam using the tropical
zodiac only for the chart comparisons and the modern transits to it.
This may make my results look more "ambiguous" to those who think
that the sidereal reference frame is a less legitimate Astrology than the
tropical, but I hope that the strength of the indicators I am showing will
speak for itself and show the usefulness of using precession-corrected positions.
Of course I welcome a comparison with the alternative --and I hope, complementary--
tropical results.
Like in many other instances of astrological practice, I think
this shows how relative is any of the models used in Astrology, since you
often can produce good results using very different astrological tools to
make a different model of the same situation, and while for some using sidereal
positions may look several steps away from conventional acceptable practice,
the use of uncorrected tropical-only positions to me would be an unacceptable
and un-natural and quite illogical procedure.
As mentioned elsewhere, this is the only way I have always worked.
All the comparisons and results you find in my Web site are made with precession-corrected
positions. The technique is explained in a separate section of the documentation
of Riyal, of which I quote the last paragraph:
<< But the situation can get very confusing when you
are checking transits of more than one radix, because the transits of one
radix cannot be compared with the transits of the other. This is where the
use of positions in the sidereal zodiac comes in handy, and it is the reason
why I show them by default in the main Riyal display. In other words, each
radix establishes its own fixed zodiac, so that positions referenced to different
radices cannot be compared. In this case, all one needs to do is reference
all radices and transiting positions to a sidereal zodiac, and then the problem
disappears.>>
Juan
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:26:43 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 7
Nessus, among the centaurs, is the one that more naturally could
be associated with fear, horror, destructiveness, nastiness, revenge, poison,
hatred, etc., all "the evil" that characterizes the Islam/Israel and the Islam/USA
relationships, the "David vs Goliath" situation that engenders the martyrs,
the kamikazes, what Westerners call "suicide bombers". Like Nessus, the suicide
bombers are greatly misunderstood and feared, and like Nessus too, they are
an expression of "the power of the weak", or like someone has called terrorism,
"the B-52's of the poor".
The presence of Nessus is very strong in all this. Recall first
the slightly over 1-degree Israel/Islam conjunction:
Nessus Islam = 28,28 Aries
Sun Israel (1948) = 29,39 Aries
which establishes a fundamental, "foundational" relationship.
In the USA(Boyd)/Islam relationship (Davison) chart we find:
Moon = 22,07 Pisces
Nessus = 21,07 Pisces
US(Boyd) Sun = 22,40 Gemini
US(Sibley) Sun = 21,42 Gemini
Saturn of the Fatwa = 22,48 Pisces
and when Desert Storm began:
Nessus = 21,03 Virgo
It would be natural to find Nessus directly associated also with
the WTC attack:
Mars Islam = 14,48 Virgo
Nessus WTC = 14,40 Sagittarius
and logically in Bin Laden's Fatwa:
Nessus Fatwa = 28,24 Scorpio
True Black Moon Desert Storm = 28,14 Scorpio
(remember Mars Fatwa=28 Aquarius, Neptune US-Boyd=28 Leo, Uranus/Neptune
Islam = 27,44 Leo)
Pylenor is conjunct Pluto in the chart of Islam:
Pylenor Islam = 15,53 Aries
Pluto Islam = 16,52 Aries
Mars Desert Storm = 15,33 Cancer
This ties directly with Israel:
Nessus Israel = 16,34 Aries
All this, in my opinion, is a conspicuous and consistent presence
of Nessus!
For many individuals of Palestine and of Afghanistan, dying as
a martyr by a suicide attack is a cause of honor and personal fulfillment;
for the West, a cause of horror, a greatly misunderstood act that is actually
a spiritual and exemplary consummation for those who live in a culture where
misery and getting killed and abused by a physically superior enemy [a very
good description of the way humans traditionally have treated wild animals]
is an everyday experience from the start of life.
As an Islamic expert recently said in the radio: "they will have
to kill them all, and they will feel good for having died that way."
Juan
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 06:52:18 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] testing the chart of Islam, 8 and final.
Remember that the Sun/Mars opposition of the conference of San
Remo 80 years ago, when Imperial powers divided among themselves the Arab
nations, Hylonome of Islam was in exact conjunction:
Mars = 7,18 Libra (sidereal)
Sun = 7, 18 Aries
Hylonome of Islam = 6,37 Libra
to which I suggested "the sacrificial victim", "the cry of the
poor" as an example taken from my list of Hylonome keywords.
When Desert Storm began, we find the following:
Hylonome = 20,57 Leo
Moon of Islam = 21,33 Leo
The destruction of Saddam Hussein's army and Iraqi infrastructure,
and the killing of thousands of Iraqi civilians that inaugurated the more
than 1 million civilian deaths that have resulted from the 10 year-long embargo,
was perpetrated in the name of justice, under the excuse of pulling Iraq out
of Kuwait, USA's justice (same as now with a different excuse and a different
Arab nation):
Moon of Islam = 21,33 Leo
US Varuna (Boyd chart) = 20,38 Leo
US Varuna (July 4th 1776) = 21,39 Leo
The references to the staggering effects on the civil population
of the embargo imposed on Iraq by the USA can be found in many places in
the Internet. I mentioned it in a message posted in the centaurs forum 22
Sep 2001 03:03:20 -0600. I quote this message here in its entirety:
Aware of the rumors circulating these days
that it was probably Irak and not Bin Laden the power behind the recent attack
on the US., I wanted to gather some concrete data about civilian casualties
in Iraq during and as a result of the Gulf War.
The list of US terrorist actions committed
against civilians in other countries is very large, almost endless; but I
will stick to recent Irak only in this post, putting aside all the lies and
predatory rhetorics of politicians and the manipulated press.
The US has been carrying on a relentless and
vindictive starvation of civilians warfare (called "embargo" by the hypocrites)
against Irak, a tactic that they have often used in the past in many countries.
As a result of this, it is estimated that 5000 children die of starvation
and disease each month in Irak.
Civil Iraqui casualties during "Desert Storm"
are estimated to be between 5000 and 15000. Nobody knows, and nobody seems
to care. I never understood why, pretending to drive Saddam Husein out of
Kuwait, the US directly attacked Baghdad, killing thousands of innocent civilians.
King Hussein of Jordan had already reached
an agreement with Saddam Husein for the Irakis to withdraw from Kuwait, yet
Mr. George Bush stepped over it and decided to launch his war. King Hussein
explained this himself in a CNN interview at the time.
On February 13, 1991, U.S. stealth fighter-bombers
"surgically obliterated" the Amiriya bomb shelter in Baghdad, burning alive
about 1,000 civilians who had taken refuge there, most of them women and children.
This was called by Mr. George Bush "acceptable collateral damage".
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/war/a021997c.html
<<One of the most graphic and heinous
crimes of the Gulf War occurred on the highway between Mutlaa, Kuwait and
Basra, Iraq, also known as "The Highway of Death." As the U.S. began its
land assault, Iraq announced that it would comply with U.N. resolution 660
and withdraw from Kuwait. Iraqi soldiers as well as Iraqi, Palestinian, Jordanian
and other civilians piled into whatever vehicles they could commandeer, including
a fire truck, and fled north towards Iraq. U.S. planes disabled vehicles
at both ends of the convoy, creating a 7-mile long traffic jam. U.S. planes
then began to bomb and strafe the entire line of some 2,000 vehicles for
hours, killing thousands of helpless soldiers and civilians while encountering
no resistance and receiving no losses to themselves. "Another 60-mile stretch
of road to the east was strewn with the remnants of tanks, armored cars,
trucks, ambulances and thousands of bodies following an attack on convoys
on the night of February 25, 1991. The press reported that no survivors are
known or likely. One flatbed truck contained nine bodies, their hair and
clothes were burned off, skin incinerated by heat so intense it melted the
windshield onto the dashboard." (ibid). These atrocities were in direct violation
of the Geneva Convention of 1949, common article 3, which outlaws the killing
of soldiers who are "out of combat", not to mention civilians.>>
But as the author of the above account says,
<<never in the history of warfare have the victors been held accountable
for their war crimes and atrocities.>>
Now watch Afghanistan, and see how the richest
and most powerful nation in the world humiliates one of the poorest and the
most devastated, once it has stopped working for them.
Usually, and very blatantly in this case, the
sin of which one accuses the other is also my own sin. There is no question
of the atrocities committed by other nations and by corrupt rulers upon their
own nations, but there is no question either about the predatory destruction
and violence perpetrated by the US against many other nations. The examples
are very numerous to be ignored or forgotten.
When the Amiriya bomb shelter in Baghdad was destroyed by 2 consecutive
"intelligent" bombs, incinerating alive about 1200 mostly women and children,
we find:
Sun = 29,13 Capricorn
Nessus of Islam = 28,28 Aries
The data and the description of the Amiriya shelter bombing is
found in a message with this title I posted 22 Sep 2001. It should be added
here as a complement. From that post:
The Amiriya shelter bombing, according to one
eye-witness account, occurred "just before dawn" and killed 1186 mostly women
and children. One source gives an exact hour: 4:30 a.m.
http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=6962
<<At about 4.30
a.m. a Stealth bomber attacked the shelter with a laser guided missile, blasting
a hole through the roof and ceiling, and exploding in the shelters hospital
on a lower level.
<<A few minutes
later, a second missile was delivered precisely through the hole made by
the first. The explosion of the second missile blasted shut the 6 ton, half-metre-thick
steel doors, and incinerated several hundred people on the upper level, many
of whom actually evaporated in the few thousand degree heat generated by
the explosion. Several hundred people on the lower level were boiled to death
by the water from the vast boilers destroyed in the blast.
<<It is not known
for certain how many civilians were killed that night in the Amiriya shelter:
the written record of the people who had sought refuge from the nightly bombing
had itself been stored in the supposed safety of the building, and now was
no more. What is known is that before 13 February 1500 people signed into
the shelter every night. After the massacre, eleven injured people, thrown
out of the shelter by the blast, were found; and over a deeply harrowing
period of several hours the mutilated black remains of 403 people were retrieved
from the building. Thus it was estimated that several hundred people were
burnt and evaporated into nothingness, with no means of determining their
identities or even their precise numbers. Later witnesses -- including Tom
Dalyell, a British Labour Member of Parliament -- described the carbonated
imprints of women and children on the walls of the shelter. The imprints
of tiny feet and hands are charred into the walls and ceilings; and on the
walls at the lower level the tide mark of the water from the burst tanks
is marked by a 5-foot high scum of human flesh.>>
13 February 1991, 4:30 a.m. Baghdad time is
01:30 GMT. Baghdad is 33n21/44e25. Sunrise occurred at 6h53m Baghdad
time, 3h53m GMT (I am assuming a 3h difference from Greenwich).
The destruction of the bomb shelter full of civilians --like yesterday's
destruction of the Red Cross warehouse in Khabul after the second or third
"intelligent" bombing --was called by the Bush administration "collateral
damage", the same phrase used later by Timothy McVeigh when asked about the
children who died in Oklahoma.
The soldiers and pilots were received and hailed as heroes in
the US:
Desert Storm Neptune = 20,06 Sagittarius
Amiriya Neptune = 21,03 Sagittarius
USA "mythical" or popular chart (Sibley) Sun = 21,42 Gemini.
I know that some of the phrases I use, like the last one above,
can be very provocative and hurt the sensibility of a lot of people, so I
will stop the series on "Testing the chart of Islam" here. There is no need
to go on, and I would like to write a final commentary.
further examination of
the Islam horoscope will be found in the collection of posts called "Chechnya":
http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/posts/mundane/chechenia.html
EPILOG
One of the results of this research, to me at least, is seeing
how clearly the situation is described by the chart of Islam from AD 622.
I think many lessons can be learned from this about the nature of these societies.
No matter what we think the "true" Islam or the rest of Islam is, as far
as I am concerned, it is a fact that the situation is shown by that map.
My original intention of testing the horoscope of Islam of AD
622 to see if it was valid has been fulfilled. This horoscope is very much
alive, and what is more important, it is very useful, at least when one applies
it accounting for precession as I have done. An a priori negative judgement
based on its antiquity would be understandable, but Islam's paradigms seem
to be very different from ours even astrologically. Apparently, Islam's extraordinary
"fixism" (fundamentalism, conservatism) and universal unity through a common
faith (=Sun/Varuna) are the reasons why this horoscope works so well in astrologically
charting the present conflict.
From the reactions to quoting one part of Bin Laden's "fatwa"
(it actually contains many "fatwas" according to its editors), I concluded
that very few people had read it. Most are simply led by what the Press says.
I didn't quote anything that was offensive in any way, just the part with
which I --and I am sure many Muslims-- completely agreed, dealing with the
US role in the Middle East, and it was nothing new, nothing that cannot be
read in many geo-political commentaries around the world and in the US. Political
Science is not based on what the official Press releases say, but in the
critical analysis of what historically and documentarily have been the true
intentions of world powers in the Middle East.
The Fatwa may seem to be a politically incorrect astrological
reference point, but there is no doubt that Bin Laden has been made the most
famous terrorist of all times, and his document, as I think has become evident
astrologically, is a very good "radical" --when combined with the US War chart
and with the chart of Islam-- in the effort to understand better the phenomenon
of Islamic terrorism against America and against Israel. I think I have shown
its relative astrological usefulness with respect to what in my opinion is
a lot of worthless speculation about his birth date.
I don't blame those who have been angered by some of the commentaries
I have written. I don't claim objectivity in any of my interpretations (as
opposed to finding the astrological indicators) and am not interested in
it. I think it is impossible to pretend "objectivity" or "impartiality" when
doing astrological interpretions of political events. My intention is not
to anger anyone, but definitely to challenge the view of those who show what
in my opinion is a total incapacity to understand the Arab or Muslim point
of view. How do you think an Arab, whose family has been killed by American
bombs or weapons or whose home has been arbitrarily bulldozed, feels about
the things that are said in the Press about their heroes and martyrs, and
when President Bush says it is not his intention to harm them? I don't claim
to understand it myself, but I wanted to try, and this series was the result.
I wrote what I saw, what I found, what I think, and what I feel. Some may
think that this was not the right time to do it, but, to me, personally,
it was exactly the right time to do it.
Recently I saw a detailed CNN report where you could see government-sponsored
training camps in Lebanon (I think it was Lebanon), and how the widows were
maintained by the local government, and the enlarged portraits of the "martyrs"
were shown high in the city streets and their families were honored. Their
children wanted to imitate them, and the various people interviewed were
trying to explain the philosophy of it.
Western lack of faith and extreme materialism was one of the reasons
given by the head of the training camps for the difficulty the reporter had
in understanding all that. Logically, this is not the whole of Islam, but
it is not so difficult to understand when one considers the history of these
communities.
One of them said so naturally and with a shining face: when you
have to fight a tank with your bare hands, what else can you do? You wrap
your body with bombs, and make of your body a tank!
I tried to offer a perspective based on short or sketchy interpretations
with which to understand the role of some of the main centaurs that have proved
to be the leading protagonists of the conflict: Pylenor, Nessus, Hylonome,
and Chariklo. All these interpretations are open and have multiple possibilities
of meaning. To me, it is fascinating to see the perspective that the centaurs
so eloquently give about this, as if they were saying: Hey! This is us! We
are the parias of the world! Look at us dying, we have power in our weakness,
and this death is our glory!
I have no interest in judging, much less in being "impartial"
or "objective". I am interested in them, I want to feel closer to them, to
understand them. I overflow and can reach to them in the only way I can.
This is what I always do as an astrologer. This is what I have done all my
life.
Princess of Wales: -- "The King desires peace."
William Wallace: -- "Longshanks desires peace?"
Princess of Wales: -- "He declared this to me, I swear it.
He proposes that you withdraw your attack.
In return he grants you title, states,
and this measure of gold that I am to pay you personally."
William Wallace: -- "A lordship, and titles, gold...
that I should become Judas."
Princess of Wales: -- "Peace is made in such ways."
William Wallace: -- "Slaves are made in such ways!"
[from "Braveheart".]
Juan Antonio Revilla
San José, Costa Rica, 29 de octubre del 2001
NOTES ON THE DATA USED FOR CALCULATING THE
CHART
In "The Book of World Horoscopes"(p.540 of the 2nd edition, 1996),
Nicholas Campion says the following about the chart of Islam:
<<THE MUSLIM ERA: The Moslem era
is dated from Sunset, 16 July 622 AD, the traditional date of Mohhamed's
arrival in Medina. In spite of the fact that Mohhamed in fact arrived
in Medina on 2 July, the beginning of the Moslem era describes the future
of Islam and Chart 465 is therefore drawn for approximate Sunset, 6.45 pm,
16 July 622 in Medina.>>
This paragraph contains several errors.
The date "July 16, 622" is not when the Hegira traditionally ended
nor when it started. It is the beginning of the year in the Arabic
Calendar in which the Hegira took place, regardless of the Hegira's exact
dates. In other words, it is the equivalent of our "January 1st" of
the year in which the events of the Hegira happened. This was the reasoning
of Mohammed's personal collaborator 'Umar I and his advisors, when the Islamic
Era and calendar were inaugurated by them in AD 638.
September 24 is given by the Britannica as the date in which Mohammed
arrived at Medina. One
Internet source says: <<according to the Hadith [=collection of
sayings of the Prophet], the first man to witness the arrival of Muhammad
in Medina on 12 Rabi (24 September) 622 and to announce the news was a Jew.>>.
This is therefore without question the traditional date of arrival, although
the most frequent statement in the sources I could consult is simply that
the events of the Hijra took place in September or "early fall" of the year
622.
Part of the confusion may come from the original source of the
"Horoscope of Islam", the one quoted by Michael O'Reilly in the April 1991
issue of "American Astrology", where he says it is "attributed to Mark Lerner",
because this chart (July 16, 622) is calculated for the coordinates of Medina
(39e36/24n28), and not those of Mecca (39e48/21n27); it also says that it
represents the day when Mohammed arrived at Medina. This erroneous assertion,
apparently from Mark Lerner, may have mislead other astrological authors.
Regarding the exact dates of the Hegira, in addition to the date
of its conclusion on the arrival at Medina that we already have (September
24th, allegedly found in the Hadith) we find other dates in a very detailed
account in "AR-RaheeQ Al-Makhtum (The Sealed Nectar)
- Memoirs of the Noble Prophet, by Saifur Rahman al-Mubarakpuri, detail life
of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)". Here we find:
- he left Mecca: "Safar 27th" = September
10/11
- arrived at Quba: "8th Rabi‘ Al-Awwal" = September
20/21
NOTE: the conversions to the Julian Calendar
in this source are wrong. To make the conversions, I have used the program
"Computus" by Gerhard Behrens.
<<As soon as the news of Muhammad’s
arrival [at Quba] began to spread, crowds came flocking out of Madinah. They
would come every morning and wait eagerly for his appearance until forced
by the unbearable heat of the midday sun to return. One day they had gone
as usual, and after a long wait and watch they retired to the city when a
Jew, catching a glimpse of three travellers clad in white winding their way
to Madinah , shouted from the top of a hillock: "O you people of Arabia!
Your grandfather has come! He, whom you have been eagerly waiting for,
has come!". The Muslims immediately rushed holding their weapons, (to defend
him). The joyful news soon spread through the city and people marched
forward to greet their noble guest.>> [ref. above]
This means, apparently, that "Quba" is somewhere outside of or
vey near Medina. A further quote clarifies all this:
<<According to the investigations
of the late Mahmood Pasha al-Falaki of Egypt, the day when Muhammad Mustafa,
the Messenger of God, arrived in Quba was Monday, 8th of Rabi-I of the year
13 of the Proclamation, a date which corresponds to September 20, 622.
On the following Friday, 12th of Rabi-I (September 24), the Messenger
of God left Quba, and entered Yathrib. He was lodged at the house of Abu
Ayyub, as already noted.>> [emphasis
mine. ref.: "Restatement of History of Islam.
The First Year of Hijra", http://www.al-islam.org/restatement/19.htm]
All this is really inconsequential anyway, because the exact date
of the beginning of the Islamic Era is a question of converting between calendars,
and from the above we know that the "July 16" date is historically accurate.
About the conversion between calendars, Gerhard Behrens says the following
in the documentation of "Computus":
<<The Islamic Lunar Calendar is
based on the schematic rules applied in historiography (e.g. Encyclopaedia
of Islam, Wuestenfeld tables etc.) with two options on the output side :
Era beginning 16 July 622 (most accepted date) or 15 July 622. The difference
is NOT consistently one day only (there would not have been any need for two
options then) as according to the sources consulted the exact sequence of
intercalary Islamic years depends on the choice of the era (first day). Anyhow,
everybody aware a bit of the problems of the Islamic Lunar calendar knows
that a conversion based on arithmetic or even on astronomic data has a margin
of error of one day (possibly even more). (Reasons: Actual sighting of the
moon in different regions by different people; overlapping of days due to
the beginning of the new Islamic day at sunset vs. midnight in modern chronology).
Therefore, the day of the week is always given as a convenient
method of control.>> [emphasis
mine]
With this explanation in mind, we can examine the most detailed
historical account I found, a web page entitled <<Hakim Muhammed
Said: The History of the Islamic Calender in the Light of the Hijra>>
[Al-Serat: The History of the Islamic Calendar in the Light of the Hijra.
Hakim Muhammad Said. Vol X No. 1 , Spring 1984. Reprinted, by courtesy of
the editor, from Hamdard Islamicus, vol. IV, no.3 {1981)].
<<An agreement was reached to institute
the era of the rule of Islam, beginning with the Hijra of the Prophet from
Mecca to Medina. There are no such differences of opinion with regard to the
date of the Hijra as there are with regard to the time when the call first
came to Muhammad and with regard to the day and year of his birth. And although
the date of his death is fixed, it is no pleasant thought to use (such a
sad event) as the beginning of the era. The Hijra, moreover, coincided in
time with the success of the religion (millah) of Islam, the frequent arrival
of embassies, and the Muslim ascent to Power. It is a time of blessings and
a very impressive (historical) event. The Hijra took place on Tuesday, Rabi
1, 8th. The first of that year -that is, al-Muharram-fell on a Thursday according
to the average (calculation). After this had become generally known, it was
considered (the correct date). However, according to observation (of the
new moon) and astronomical(?) calculation, the day fell on a Friday. The
author of the Nihayat al-idrak said that (the Hijra) was used, and for all
future times the era was counted from it. Agreement on this matter was reached
in the year 17 of the Hijra, the fourth year of the caliphate of 'Umar. Until
then, each year (after the Hijra) was called after its main event, and this
was used for dating purposes. The first year of the Prophet's residence in
Medina was thus called: 'The permission to travel'. The second year was called:
'The year of the command to fight'. The third year: 'The year of the test',
and so on. Afterwards, the custom of naming the year after the main events
was abandoned.>>
Using the program "Computus" of Gerhard Behrens, one knows that
Rabi I, 8th corresponds to Monday, September 20, 622. Since the text says
it was Tuesday, one concludes that it happened at night or during sunset,
which would make it the next day in their calendar. This proves that the counting
is exactly from July 16, and not July 15th, therefore July 16, 622, is the
historically accurate zero point of the Islamic Era and calendar.
In my study, I used the "Lerner" chart's coordinates, but fortunately,
because of the approach I followed, the difference is insignificant:
The chart, done for Mecca is:
GMT = 15h 59m 12s
LMT = 18h 38m (true solar time = 18h 35m)
Moon = 27,02 Leo (tropical)
The chart done for Medina is:
GMT = 16h 05m 38s
LMT = 18h 44m (true solar time = 18h 41m)
Moon = 27,06 Leo
Having clarified this, I can conclude that the choice of Medina
or Mecca for erecting the chart is a question of personal judgement or preference,
although personally I do not see why it should be made for Medina, since the
holy shrines of Mecca are unquestionably the heart of Islam.