Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:40:50 and 17:46:28 -0600 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Re: Peter Arnett

... a metaphor of the close and applicative opposition. The planet is "fired" by the sun, the sun projects itself compulsively (jumps) in to the projected solar qualities --fire, passion , drama, etc., heroics, of the planet. The fight of the Sun to remain or endure against the challenge of the planet can be described as a burning fire, whatever the nature of the planet.

I should say "fire" only, since the phrase "burning fire" is somewhat different and does indeed, in my opinion, has affinity with Asbolus. I once commented this:

Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:58:51 -0600
... I too feel that he is fiery, but it is the fire of the alchemical oven, or of Hell, or of the witchs' cauldron.

About Operation Tailwind:

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St. Louis Journalism Review
http://www.stljr.org/pages/archives/september1998.htm
article by Charles L. Klotzer

<<Oliver and Smith spent eight months investigating the Tailwind operation as it was called by the military. They interviewed scores of military personnel, including retired Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He is quoted as confirming the use of sarin gas, that it was approved by the national security team of President Richard M. Nixon and the CIA was involved in the operation.

After the report became public knowledge, all hell broke loose. Defense Secretary Willian S. Cohen issued a detailed Pentagon response dismissing the accusations. CNN founder Ted Turner called the report "the most horrible thing" that ever happened to him, worse than the death of his father and the failure of two marriages. Admiral Moorer, who had read the report in full before airing, later claimed that his statements were distorted.

The Tailwind operation in Laos was a "black, black" operation which officially didn't exist. The SOG (Standards and Observations Group) team undertaking the mission also didn't exist officially. Its members have official records that they were stationed in other places during the time they were in Laos. After all, America wasn't officially in Laos at all during that period.

When the report was first put on the Internet, another retired military officer lauded that exposé and submitted information to CNN about the use of nerve gas in another operation. CNN is sitting on it and it is unlikely to investigate further.

CNN President Rick Kaplan and Tom Johnson, chairman of the CNN News Group, asked Floyd Abrams, a respected constitutional lawyer, to evaluate the report, check the investigation and make a finding as to its accuracy. His probe was joined by CNN General Counsel David Kohler. Abrams spent nine days checking eight months of work.

Abrams found that the report was one of "journalistic overkill." The serious flaws in the story, he reported, stem from the journalists' deep belief in the truth of their research. "This doesn't mean that the story isn't true," Abrams said on CNN, "but what it does mean then is that at this moment we simply do not have enough evidence, in my view, for any conclusion to be reached." Abrams found no suggestion that any information was fabricated, he found the reporters' notes to be exhaustive and detailed, but he also concluded that there was no documentation.

He did not address, apparently, the circumstances that in a black, black operation no written marching orders are being issued. In response Oliver and Smith issued a 78-page rebuttal insisting on the accuracy of their report. They charge that corporate interests were haunted by a public relations fiasco. A CNN manager, they say, told them, "we're going to drive a stake through the heart of the story, so it's dead and never comes back again."

Even if we accept Kaplan's and Johnson's apology that the report should never have been aired (both read the report in full before the broadcast), the report contained so much intriguing information that it should be followed up with a new, independent team of investigators.

By no means has the last word been written on this subject. You can't drive a stake into public knowledge. News, publication of the respected Freedom Forum and Newseum, prominently reported on the reporters' rebuttal on its front page, "Fired CNN producers defend report-Journalists question why sources backed away from sarin nerve-gas story."

The final verdict may still be out on whether the report was sound, but we know already that corporate stamina was not. Experienced veteran reporters carry more credibility than the CIA, the Pentagon or corporate media chiefs..

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ref: http://www.stljr.org/pages/archives/september1998.htm

/Juan

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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 04:54:59 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] "Valley of Death" - Tailwind / TD10

I had mentioned before that the CNN documentary "Valley of Death" about operation Tailwind was a good example of Sun/TD10 (see my post of 5 Dec 2002):

CNN's "The Valley of Death" - Operation Tailwind broadcast
June 7, 1998
22h EDT
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/tailwind_af.html
Sun = 22,23 Taurus
TD10 = 21,33 Aquarius

This Sun/TD10 square is aligned with the Mars/Neptune conjunction of Peter Arnett:

Peter Arnett Mars = 21,03 Leo (sidereal)
Peter Arnett Neptune = 20,25 Leo

We can forget for the moment whether the story is true or not. The story is about the U.S. Government (Sun) secretly killing U.S. defectors in the jungles of Laos (TD10) with nerve-gas . This is well-represented in the above square and the "valley of death" is a good image of this aspect of TD10.

This manifestation of TD10 is similar to my interpretation of the social turmoil in Costa Rica starting March 20, 2000, posted 4 Dec 2002 (TD10 conjunct Sun) and that you can read in my "Notes on TD10":

Quote: <<TD10 works both ways: it suggests the passing of a law that goes against the people's will (Sun), and it also suggests the complete and massive resistance of the people who radically opposed the (obscure) will of the government.>>

NOTE: the same is present in the Tailwind story, only more "radical", maybe a manifestation of the square: the obscure will of the Government, and the radical opposition (the defectors, as well as the public knowledge about it). Contrary to Costa Rica, the Goverment completely overpowers the people in this case. This, I think, is the nature of the square against the Costa Rica case, which is a conjunction, but is also the nature of the United States society and the role that organizations like the C.I.A. play in it.

Quote: <<The signing of the agreement by the corrupt majority of Costa Rican ruling class, and the resulting mobilization of the population against the government, evidenced an alienated Sun, and also a society (or a Sun) that was fighting against its alienation.>>

NOTE: see how radically alienated the Sun is in this case, through the defectors as well as the actions of the Government against them. Whether the story is true or not, this alienation describes what happened during the "Vietnam Era".

Quote: <<TD10 completely nullified the will of the alienated Government, of a dark or obscure Sun, and forced a "heroic" or epic mobilization of the population that was successful in establishing its will: the Sun was strengthened.>>

NOTE: see how in this case, exactly the opposite happened, both in the story itself as well as in the way the story was handled.

Quote: <<The reaction against oppression was definitive and radical...>>

NOTE: Operation Tailwind, again, showed the opposite. However, if we consider that the story was at least known to the point of creating such controversy 18 years later, and if we consider that, for example, the Kent State killings of May 4 1970 happened just 4 months before Tailwind, we can see that the interpretation I made of the Costa Rica case describes well what "Valley of Death" and Tailwind represent(ed) to U.S. society.

Quote: <<Unlike Pluto, TD10 is "humanized", and in the case of Sun/TD10, the humanization is "you cannot take what is ours, this is not negotiable ". The president (the Sun) provoked a "TD10 reaction", a return to or realization of our historical and spiritual roots.>>

NOTE: This is what happened with the events around 1970, and it is what would have happened if the "Valley of Death" story had not been buried by CNN and killed by the Government campaign.

Quote: <<It was dramatically clear that in Costa Rica the ruling class, acting in pure self-interest (Sun), was willing to sell one of the most fundamental conquests that became part of the national identity. This is an enemy that is inside.>>

NOTE: despite my reserves with the phrase "the enemy inside", it seems that in the "Valley of Death" case, it is a good --almost perfect-- description.

Quote: <<In general, I think, in this case Sun/TD10 was more positive... as a moment of glory and pride (Sun) in our history.>>

NOTE: "Valley of Death", and the darkest chapters of the Vietnam War that it represents, is perhaps the greatest shame in U.S. history.

Juan

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