Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:39:15 -0600
Reply-To: crp@egroups.com
Subject: [crp] 1996PW - weird...

1996PW is a very unique type of object. Unfortunately it was seen only in 1996 and 1997, so we cannot make very accurate long-term orbital predictions. However, the positions are accurate enough for most purposes, since the object at perihelion (reached in Agust 1996) is as close to the Earth as Mars and moves very fast, making a more accurate orbit calculation possible.

I just discovered something very remarkable about it.

As you know, the sidereal orbital period, deduced from the osculating elements, is about 6000 years (5617 at present). But the truth is that its true period is really almost half as much, in the order of 3600 years. This became evident as I tried to make a rudimentary numerical integration of the orbit to the time of King Tutankhamen (1300 B.C.).

The 5600 years period at present is an artifact, a result of the distortions the orbit suffers when entering the inner solar system. The semimajor axis is stretched dramatically and the orbit seems to reach beyond 600 AU when at aphelion, but this is a momentary effect lasting only a few years when the object reaches perihelion, as the giant planets "push and pull" the instantaneous orbit.

In real time, as is shown by a numerical integration done from 1000 AD to 2050 AD, the semimajor axis of this object between 1000 AD and the year 1970 oscillates between 233 and 240 AU, which results in a period of revolution around 3600-3700 yrs.

As the object approaches the Jupiter, Mars, and Earth realms, its semimajor axis jumps abruptly from its normal value around 236 AU to 350+ AU in 1995 (period around 7000 years). It then drops equally abruptly and seems to stabilize around 270 AU (period around 4000 years) until 2050 AD.

Some conclusions that can be drawn from this are:

1- Its mean solar distance near perihelion (1990-2000) is an artifact which does not represent the true value over time (all the other elements are unaffected).

2- It is possible that its positions before even the 1990's are very uncertain, at least presumably the solar distance or radiusvector.

3- It presumably (if the orbit does not go chaotic) was not in aphelion at the time of King Tut, but was really near perihelion, like it is again in the 20th century for the second time.

4- Was there really a first time 3600 years ago?

-- The graphic of the changing sidereal period is attached. The peak corresponds to 1995.  The period is in years.


NOTE: The effective period of 1996PW is 3613 years.  Its last perihelion was in 1618 B.C., and it reached aphelion in 188 A.D at 468.6 AU.

Juan

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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:30:14 -0600
From: jar@expreso.co.cr
Subject: Re: Pluto/1996TL66

[...]

... This was the time when the "Nuclear Covenant" was established, which in many ways seems to be a thing of the past now, thanks, in my opinion, to the momentous political action of one man in Russia who was inspired by higher spiritual hierarchies at a time when politically Ronald Reagan and associates (Bush, Thatcher) had plunged one part of the world into the darker ages.

Of course I am talking of Gorbachev, who, BTW has an exact opposition Sun/1996PW, an "oortoid" with an orbital sweep far beyond TL66 and which, unlike TL66 which always keeps itself in the periphery, in the "nothingness" of the desert, comes really close to the Earth, like a one-visit comet that changes history forever.

In Alan Parker/Pink Floyd's film "The Wall", maybe one can see the difference between Pluto and TL66, since I feel that the film relates exclusively to Pluto, not TL66. I feel that TL66 is more apocalyptic, while Pluto is more related to "the Wall". Anyway, this "wall" is, astronomically speaking, the Neptune gravitational barrier.

[...]

Juan

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:27:50 -0600
Reply-To: Centaurs@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [Centaurs] Pluto/1996TL66

[About Pink Floyd's "The Wall":]

This, to me, as the movie depicts the building of the psychological/sociological wall, is a masterful analysis of European post-war society. It my be difficult to separate TL66 from Pluto here, but at least, it seems to me, the axis they formed is very well represented throughout the movie, and also in the lyrics of the songs, added to the fact that the whole opera is like a hymn to rock. I never understood the social/historical significance of rock music better than when I was able to understand this film.

I am a fan of both the movie and the original Pink Floyd cd, and consider the film a 20th-century masterwork.

The film, directed by Alan Parker (b. 14 Feb. 1944 in London) was conceived and written by Pink Floyd's Roger Waters (b. 6 September 1943 in Cambridge), and released 15 July 1982 in the UK (the music had been out since 1979). The great animation sequences were drawn by Gerald Scarfe, and the actor who played "Pink" was Bob Geldof (b. 5 Oct. 1954 in Dublin). [source: the Internet Movie Database]

[...]

Juan

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:39:24 -0600
Reply-To: Centaurs@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [Centaurs] Pluto/1996TL66

[...]

The authoritarian violence of the state and of education, the repression, the massification, the dumbness of a generation, the soul muteness and castration... all this expressed through the punch of electronic amplification and free expression of inner and unarticulated anger in the music.

My favorite song of "The Wall" is "Comfortably Numb". I think it describes the modern individual very much, the social pathology of consumer society. But there is an inner cry, a protest of the child inside asking for love... an existential and lyrical cry which is expanded to the infinite in the great electric guitar solo at the end, making it sound almost like a prayer or hymn combined with wild unrestrained self-assertion... really this is what I think was behind rock music in the late 60's and 70's, all those young people with Pluto in Leo fighting for the freedom to express their Suns and live without fear!

[...]

BTW: Roger Waters, like Gorbachev, had an exact Sun/1996PW conjunction. Something is beginning to emerge about this object.

Juan

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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:08:20 -0600
Reply-To: Centaurs@egroups.com
Subject: [Centaurs] 1996PW

Richard Nolle cites for Gorbachev "Current Biography", 1985. (Data=B) for exact noon, March 2, 1931, -03:00, 046E06', 50N57', Privol'noje. This gives:

Sun = 10,50 Pisces
96PW = 11,13 Virgo

I don't know the birth time of Roger Waters (6 Sept. 1943, Cambridge, Eng.). Assuming 12h UT, we get:

Venus = 12,14 Virgo
96PW = 12,49 Virgo
Sun = 13,01 Virgo

The Sun/Venus is his lyricism, and everything obviously is absorbed by 1996PW. In the case of Gorbachev, the opposition gives him a more deliberate and conscious awareness of the 1996PW energy.

Astronomically, this object was seen for about 500 days only from 1996 to 1997, and has not been seen again until now. It is a very rare asteroid indeed, more like a "dead" Oort cloud comet, those that come to the Earth only once and are never seen again. In this case the object's orbit brings it as close as Mars at perihelion, and far beyond any other known object in the solar system (besides Oort comets) so far when at aphelion. Its period is several thousand years.

The orbit, however, because it came close to the Earth and was (is) moving very fast near perihelion, is fairly accurate, much more accurate than those of most centaurs, and the estimated accumulated error is about 44" only per century, which means we can use its positions with confidence.

But since it has been observed so little, until it is "recovered" by the observational efforts of astronomers, it is not likely to be numbered and will not receive a name. I don't have a clue about its possible name, but I know that, if it were not for its small size, it is the closest you can get astronomically to the hypothetical "Nibiru".

Of all the known asteroids, it is the one that can claim a more archetypal cometary nature, the closest we can be to the big historical sweeps of evolution. For example, it is very strong in the chart of Georg Hegel, the philosopher of the "eternal spirit" and the father of historical dialectics. Assuming that he was born at noon GMT, we find (b. August 27 1770, d. Nov 14 1831):

Sun = 4,09 Virgo
1996PW = 2,06 Virgo
1996PW at death = 4,08 Virgo!

Juan

 


 
 
 
 
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