Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 07:42:21 -0600
Subject: Jean Sibelius

Sibelius, more than one of the greatest composers of all times (considered by some to be the greatest symphonist after Beethoven), is an emblematic figure of Finnish nationality, and, because of his isolation, had become a living myth before he died at the age of 92 September 20, 1957.

He was born December 8, 1865 in Hamenlina (61N00/24E24), at the time called Tavastehus in Swedish because the Finnish language was prohibited by Swedish authorities and not even spoken by the majority of the population. Before he was 30, thanks to his music, he had become a national hero and the performance of his "Finlandia" was banned in his own country.

The most authoritative biography of Sibelius has been written by his son-in-law Erik Tawastjerna. In his "Sibelius", Vol.I (1865-1905) [Univ. of California Press, 1976], there is a letter from his father to a friend quoted saying that his son was born "yesterday at half-past twelve".

The "Internet Horoskop Datenbank" gives "0h30m", i.e., 12:30 a.m., and cites as source "Data News #54 Aug 1995". But I gave problems with this "a.m." interpretation of his father's statement, for the following reasons:

1- Midnight December 8 at 61N latitude is the heart of the night nearing the longest night of the year. Had he been born at midnight, his father would have told about the birth in a different way. He just said "yesterday at half-past twelve".

2- Usually in biographies, when someone is born at midnight, it is expressedly said.

3- At midnight his Sun would be in the 3rd, whereas if one interprets his father statement as noon, his Sun would be elevated in the 9th and perfectly describing his immense international fame and his many constant travels throughout his life.

Of course I am not sure which is correct: 12:30 a.m. or 12:30 p.m., and I was wondering if any of the Scandinavian and specially Finnish members of this forum knew for sure what is the correct interpretation and would have a biographical or Finnish source for it.



Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:32:21 -0600
Subject: Re: Jean Sibelius 2

At 05:31 08/06/1999 , Marita Hölttä wrote: <<According to the Biographer Santeri Levas, Sibelius was born 30 mins after the midnight, "when the Planet of Genius, Uranus, was culminating over Tavastehus". This is really mentioned in the book, page 1! Markku Manninen>>

Hello, Marita.

Thanks a lot for clearing this out for me. I had read a Santeri Levas book years ago ("Sibelius, A personal Portrait", 1973), but this is obviously a different book. I will use the midnight time from now on.

Sibelius was born with an exact Sun/Vesta conjunction:

      Sun = 15,55 Sagittarius
      Vesta = 16,04 Sagittarius

This conjunction is related with his being a sort of national emblem, an "incarnation" of Vesta, of group values that helped give the Finnish people a sense of national unity and pride.

Regarding this side of Vesta, Eleanor Bach had this to say:

<<Remember, the original hearth or fireplace was one where "the family", the clan, the group of people who "belonged" together gathered. Not strangers or "outsiders". My family, my home, my property, my block, city, my state, my country. Parochialism, nationalism...
<<You can see how Vesta may have to do with heritage, ethnicity. Birds of a feather flock together. Our language, customs, traditions, are the social mores that tie us together. All of this "famili"ar actions give us national identity, make us feel safe, sheltered, secure; we belong, we are not outsiders.>>
[PLANET WATCH, May 1989]

Sibelius achieved this by his use of motives from Finnish mythology and his powerful evocations of elemental forces and the vast landscapes of Finland. His music achieves great emotional intensity while at the same time being remote and magical, like hostile nature. It is full of shamanistic power, plutonian power and neptunian expansiveness, which can be traced to the centaurs in his chart.

      Sun = 15,55 Sag.
      Chiron = 14,23 Pisces
      Asbolus = 14,28 Gemini Rx.
      Hylonome = 14,44 Virgo

The most angular planet is:

      TL66 = 11 minutes of time from the IC.

This presence of TL66 (26,50 Sag) in relation to the angles (M.C. 24,41 Gemini) is suggestive of his plutonian isolation.

More later.



Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 10:34:38 -0600
Subject: Jean Sibelius

... He was a very stern composer, of the romantic tradition at first, later in life more strict in his classicism. This is probably due to his exact Sun/Vesta conjunction. He had a pension for life from the Finnish government, had 6 children (all girls, which I think is related to an exact Venus/Hebe conjunction: Venus 26,45 Sco -- Hebe 26,51 Sco), and an international prestige as a composer of genius that made him a "symbol", a sort of living myth. He was not an iconoclast or a "wild" character in the way you mention. As a national symbol he was, he had to behave accordingly.

... Sibelius sometimes is labelled a "late romantic", i.e., a 20th century survivor of the 19th century romantic tradition. But he was so original, especially when he matured, that he cannot be labeled as belonging to a specific "school", nor did he establish one. Obviously he had his influences, as he influenced others, but I would say that he remains spiritually isolated, "centaurean", for the following reasons:

1- his depiction of powerful elemental forces in virtually all his compositions.
2- his isolation from the mainstream of compositions of his time.
3- the synthesis of classical form with unrestrained emotional intensity.
4- the evocations of vastness and of mythical/magical landscapes.
5- the martial, "aggressive", convoluted, "clashing" nature of many of his compositions
6- his defiance of "intellectual" music by means of his "unbridled" inspiration.

These points are only an attempt to find how the centaur grand-cross is expressing in him. (Hylonome14,44 Vir -- Asbolus14,24 Gem -- Chiron14,23 Pis -- Sun15,55 Sag). Of course I love his music and identify very strongly with it and with the points mentioned above. His 2nd Symphony, for example, I have always considered an "hymn of Sagittarius".

I had never checked the Uranian planets in his chart. They certainly would explain why I love his music so much and why it is so powerful to me. His Vulcanus (strength, potency) is in the same degree of my Sun/Venus conjunction.

I will write more on Sibelius later.



Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 20:26:55 -0600
Subject: Re: Jean Sibelius

... Sibelius was quite conservative in his way of living, very bourgeoise, and the structure of his compositions was very classical, in spite of the originality and the power that left critics stunned. He was not a performer, like a pianist, director or a violinist, and this is a very important distinction with rock musicians, who are performers.

... Of course we have to take the differences in time and in culture, and also perhaps the nature of Hylonome/Chiron/Asbolus combined with Sun/Vesta. I would expect more Nessus/Pholus/1994TA in rock musicians. I don't know. Would like help concerning the similarity between Sibelius and rock, but I guess not many people have heard his music (his Finlandia, Valse Triste, Swan of Tuonela, En Saga, etc.). It is melancholic, romantic, convoluted and dreamy... probably most people have heard the violin concerto without knowing that is his. It is violent, but in a romantic way.



Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:33:45 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] TD10: Aleksis Kivi

The Finnish composer Einojuhani Rautavaara, author of the opera "Aleksis Kivi" (1995-1996):

<<I think every Finn knows Kivi. He's a national writer and he was active in the middle of the last century when the Finnish language was fighting for its existence. And there was in fact no Finnish literature before him, very few things written, but nothing remarkable at all. And then suddenly, he's like an exotic flower coming up from nowhere, and is great. I think he still is the greatest Finnish writer and poet ever.>>

His date of birth is nationally celebrated in Finland: October 10th, 1834. At Noon GMT:

       Sun = 16,42 Libra
       TD10 = 15,32 Libra
       UX25 = 16,32 Libra

2002UX25 is a "giant" classic cubewano (range 36.6-->49.0 AU) of about 1000 Km in diameter. I will go on ignoring UX25, assuming that the characteristics of TD10 are clearly discernible in spite of the focality of UX25. TD10 is dynamically very different from UX25, and it belongs to a different "domain paradigm".

from the "Finnish Music Information Centre"

<<Kivi's fate as a writer was extremely tragic. He worked as an independent writer at the time when Swedish-language literature predominated in Finland. August Ahlqvist (1826-1889), the leading Finnish-language poet and aesthetician of the time, condemned Kivi's life work as linguistically and morally worthless, the writer's optimistic ideological world view began to unravel. Kivi ended up in a mental institution and died at the age of 38, incurably insane, at his brother's home on New Year's Eve in 1872.>>


<<It seems probable that in the development of many of his important [works] ... it was in fact an advantage that Kivi had to write them in a completely Swedish-language environment... where he was forced into isolation from his friends through lack of funds. He took this very heavily at times and in his letters he expressed his longing for the company of his friends and his homesickness for the parish of Nurmijärvi.>>
<<... it is worth mentioning Kivi's beloved Albina Palmqvist, daughter of a Helsinki clothing manufacturer and Aurora Hemmilä, a Mäntsälä inn-keeper's daughter. Marriage was impossible, however, since in the society of the civil servant class, Kivi lacked the most essential things of all, an official position and the income that went with it. In his works, Kivi also wrote about his yearning for a family of his own. Socially, Aleksis Kivi fell between two stools in a rather ill-fated way; he was no longer a vulgar peasant but neither did he belong to the gentry. The fount of strength in Kivi's career as a writer was his incredible imagination, his knowledge of people and his literary talent and, at the same time, the love and sympathy towards ordinary people that appears over and over again in his works - incomparable humour as well as a sense of tragedy and comedy.>>

In the words of the composer Rautavaara:

<<In my eyes three different aspects unite in Kivi's work. Firstly there is the rise of the national intelligentsia and the fight for recognition for the Finnish language and identity. Secondly there is the rustic village atmosphere, the peasant's life and music...  Thirdly there is the backwoods isolation and loneliness found deep in the forest and the mystical forest creatures born out of subconscious archetypes.>>

- the "fight for recognition" is the fight of the Sun against TD10...

- the "backwoods isolation and loneliness found deep in the forest and the mystical forest creatures born out of subconscious archetypes" may be a reference to UX25.

Rautavaara continues (ref. above):

<<Kivi's personal tragedy was depression brought on by hostile lack of understanding for his work. It developed gradually into classic schizophrenia. This demonic mood receives its personification in the character of Professor Ahlqvist...>>

NOTE: "this demonic mood" (depression, schizophrenia) is TD10. August Ahlqvist, later to become a symbol of oppression of artistic freedom, personified TD10 for Kivi. He criticized young Kivi severely, achieving "an undying reputation by belittling Kivi's works". Of "Seven Brothers", Kivi's greatest work, he wrote: <<It is a ridiculous work and a blot on the name of Finnish literature>> [ref.:].

Now there is a monument for Kivi in Helsinki, and his birthday is celebrated nation-wide.

Rautavaara equates Kivi's final mental breakdown and death to a dream in his Opera:

<<However, the dream sustained in the poems of the epilogue its illusion, its beauty and hope lives on and grows out of the ruins and devastation. It is eternal.>>

Aleksis Kivi died in the night of December 30th, 1872. He was 38.

Next: Jean Sibelius writes music for one of the most famous of Kivi's poems "Sydämenu Laulu" or ¨Song of My Heart", related to the death of children.



Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:49:31 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] TD10: Aleksis Kivi, 2. Sibelius

I learned about Aleksis Kivi when examining Sibelius composition of "Sydämenu Laulu" (The Song of My Heart) in 1898, after a famous poem of Kivi found in hi masterwork "Seven Brothers".

<<In the poem a mother sits alone with her child and asks: "Tell me, my child, my summerbright, tell me: wouldst thou not sail away from here to a haven of everlasting peace while the white pennant of childhood still flies clean? On the shore of a misty, tideless lake stands the dark manor of Tuoni; there in the heart of a shadowy grove, in the bosom of a dewy thicket a cradle is prepared for thee with snowy linen and wrappings. Hear therefore my song; it wafts thee to the land of the Prince of Tuoni."- 'Grove of Tuoni' can be translated as 'Grove of Death'.>>
This poem has a strong Chariklo overtone. This is confirmed below when we found that the death Chariklo of Kivi is exactly conjunct the death Moon of Sibelius (the data on Sibelius death is: September 20, 1957, 8:45 p.m. in Jarvenpää, ref.:  p.127 of Santeri Levas "Sibelius, A Personal Portrait" Bucknell University Press, 1973)

Sibelius was always attracted to the subject of Death as it appears in Finnish myths and legends. Two of his most popular compositions gyrate about Death: "The Swan of Tuonela", a passage from the Kalevala that speaks of the Land of the Dead, and the "Valse Triste", a dance with Death from the play "Kuolema" (Death) written by his brother-in-law. Sibelius had TD10 in conjunction with the Lunar Node:

       Kivi natal TD10 = 23,26 Virgo (sidereal)
       Kivi natal Sun = 24,27 Virgo (12h GMT)
       Sibelius natal Node = 26,25 Virgo
       Kivi death Hylonome = 26,10 Virgo
       Sibelius natal TD10 = 27,23 Virgo

He engaged in the composition of the song after Kivi's poem in 1895; this was the time when his second daughter, Katarina, was born, in November of that year. The song was first performed December 1, 1898, just days after the birth of his third daughter, Kirsty.

Kirsty died of typhus 1 year later, on February 10, 1900.

       Sibelius, progressed Moon at Kirsty's death = 20,47 Libra
       Sibelius, TD10 at death = 21,14 Libra
       Sibelius, Moon at death = 20,37 Cancer
       Kirsty, Asbolus at death = 20,02 Cancer
       Kivi, Chariklo at death = 21,19 Cancer
       Kivi, Pholus at death = 21,08 Capricorn
       Kirsty, Mars at death = 22,07 Capricorn

NOTE: Sibelius had 6 daughters, of which only Kirsty died. But I found one source that mentions 1 more daughter dying near birth:

<<Our national composer Jean Sibelius composed the Song of my Heart to a poem by our national author Aleksis Kivi. It is a favourite of many male choirs. Sibelius lost two neonatal daughters, Eveliina and Kirsti.>>

Eveliina was also the name of his aunt. A seventh daughter is never mentioned in the biographies.

Between the composition "The Song of my heart" in 1898, and Kirsty's death in February 1900, natal TD10 was activated in the following way in the chart of Sibelius:

       progressed Moon conjunct natal TD10 = 14 February 1898
       progressed Sun square natal TD10 = 24 September 1899
       progressed Sun square progressed natal TD10 = 2 November 1899
       solar arc TD10 square natal Sun = January 5, 1900.

Summarizing, TD10 appears in the following connections:

1- Kirsty dies, progressed Moon (20,47 Libra) conjunct his death TD10 (21,14 Libra)
2- Kirsty dies, progressed Moon (20,47 Libra) square death Moon (20,37 Cancer)
3- death Moon (20,37 Cancer) square death TD10 (21,14 Libra)
4- Kirsty dies, solar arc TD10 (22,57 Leo) square natal Sun (23,03 Scorpio)
5- Kirsty dies, transiting Sun (27 Capricorn) trines Sibelius natal TD10 (27 Virgo)
6- Kirsty dies, transiting Sun (27 Capricorn) conjunct Kivi's death Venus (27 Capricorn)
7- Kivi dies, transiting Hylonome and Mars in 26 Virgo conjunct Sibelius Node and TD10

The period of activation of TD10 by the progressed Moon (conjunction) and by the square of the progressed converse and direct Sun goes from February 1898 to January 1900. The premiere of "The Song of My heart" was December 1st 1898, and Kirsty died February 10th 1900. This period saw also the birth of the First Symphony and of "Finlandia". The composition of the 1st Symphony started in the winter of 1898; it was first performed on April 26, 1899.

Neither "Finlandia" nor the First Symphony are marked by "the hand" or "the voice" of death. They are romantic, epic and heroic compositions, very solar. I have always considered the finale of Sibelius 1st Symphony a representative of the astrological Sun. The Symphony is very plutonic, wild, neurotic, angry and dark, as if chaos and light were fighting each other with passion, as if one were fighting against a very oppressive force, but there is a heroic strength that extends its light in defiance triumphantly and infinitely at the end. This puts in evidence, perhaps, that Sibelius' Sun was in no way controlled by the alienating, oppressive energies of TD10. To me, he was a solar composer "par excellence", his music is an affirmation of the Sun.


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