by Juan  Antonio Revilla

Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:10:35 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Second Vatican Council

I have had for some time the intention of studying astrologically the Central and South-American-born phenomenon called "Theology of Liberation", a dissident offshoot of the Catholic Church, object of very hot controversies and very powerful in certain circles of the Latin-American priesthood to this day, but especially during the 70's and 80's.

I want also to examine the case of Oscar Arnulfo Romero, archbishop of El Salvador murdered in 1980 for his very confrontational denunciation of the genocidal government of his country, during one of the most violent periods of contemporary Central American history. His assassination was left in impunity, although it is widely accepted that it was orchestrated by an army officer named Roberto Dabuisson, head of the "Death Squadrons" acting under CIA orders. Romero became a martyr and a symbol of Liberation Theology.

I learned to admire him mainly by reading his courageous homilies, which are all published, and through a very good film ("Romero") of 1989 acting Raul Julia and directed by John Duigan. Contrary to the boring ideological --often typically Marxist-- discourse of other theologians of "liberation", his language was direct, poignant, and vital.

Trying to understand Romero has taken me to the origins of Liberation Theology, to the Third Episcopal Conference of Puebla in 1979, where it can be seen reigning, to the seed from which it sprang, the Second Episcopal Conference of Medellín in 1968, and above all, to that momentous, revolutionary set of events or "acts" which gave birth to the Documents of the Second Vatican Council, held in Rome from 1962 to 1965.

The Second Vatican Council, or 21st Ecumenical Church Council, consisted of 4 sessions held yearly in Autumn. The 1st session opened October 13 1962, and lasted until December 8th. The last (and more productive) session opened September 14 1965, and the Council was officially closed December 8, 1965.

The 16 "Documents" that resulted from the Council, whatever one believes about the performance of the Catholic Church or of its priests who are supposed to implement them, constitute an unprecedented revolutionary "seed" of enormous historical significance. John XXIII called it "a new Pentecost".... its concrete fruits and results are still a matter of debate, but the weight and spiritual transcendence of the doctrine contained in those documents is unquestionable.

NOTE: The opening of the 2nd Vatican Council is listed in Astrodatabank's "Newsmakers", but the date given (Oct 13th) is wrong without any doubt. October 11th is given invariably in all sources. However, one could use the Astrodatabank time (9 a.m.) as a reference. We have:

   Sun = 17,32 Libra
   True Black Moon = 17,21 Libra

   TL66 = 3,27 Pisces
   Jupiter = 3,22 Pisces
   Uranus = 3,41 Virgo

I will try to interpret these aspects later (alternative interpretations by others are welcome). More data can be obtained from the opening speech given by Pope John XXIII:

<<As regards the initiative for the great event which gathers us here, it will suffice to repeat as historical documentation our personal account of the first sudden bringing up in our heart and lips of the simple words, "Ecumenical Council." We uttered those words in the presence of the Sacred College of Cardinals on that memorable January 25, 1959, the feast of the Conversion of St. Paul, in the basilica dedicated to him. It was completely unexpected, like a flash of heavenly light, shedding sweetness in eyes and hearts...>>
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For January 25 1959 (12h GMT), one obtains:

Pluto = 3,39 Virgo (see Jupiter/TL66/Uranus above)

Quaoar = 18,14 Libra (see Sun/Black Moon above)

--> the Council was the "incarnation" of Quaoar at the time of its conception.

   Sun = 4,46 Aquarius
   Saturn 11 Oct 1962 = 4,43 Aquarius
   TX300 11 Oct 1962 = 5,38 Aquarius (a giant cubewano of about 1000 Km)

--> the "flash of heavenly light" of that day (Jan 25 1959) "incarnated" TX300 and Saturn of the Council that was to happen later, it was the "premonition" of TX300 and Saturn of the Council. Saturn "consolidated the spiritual light", or rather "promise" (larger orb) of TX300.

   Jupiter 25 Jan 1959 = 28,05 Scorpio
   TL66 25 Jan 1959 = 29,04 Aquarius

--> Jupiter/TL66 that are at conflict here were united or integrated at the opening of the Council. By itself, this aspect dramatizes the significance of the Jupiter/TL66 conjunction at the Council's opening.

In Dec 2000, I examined the rare Jupiter/TL66 triple conjunction of 1962 in the context of the "Cuban missile crisis":

Here, instead of "war games", we are seeing a religious aspect of TL66 inspired by "the End of Time" sociological thinking. This is especially the case if we see it from the perspective of "old" John XXIII, who criticized the pessimism of the "prophets of doom" inside the Church and at the opening speech clearly sided --to the happy surprise of many participants-- with the progressives and reformists.

Recall my suggestion for naming TL66 "Typhon". I hadn't thought before of the association this has with "ruach", the "strong wind" that is the manifestation of "the spirit of God" in the Old Testament, and later, of Pentecost:

<<... And suddenly there came from heaven a noise like a violent rushing wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting...>> [Acts...]

Angelo Roncalli, John XXIII, was nearly 77 when he became Pope in 1958. Nobody expected him to be such a refreshing, revolutionary breeze in the history of the Catholic Church. The expectations by the younger reformists were very low at the time of the Council's opening, but the old Pope surprised everybody, and is now remembered as one of the most popular and most beloved popes.

Note the Sun/Neptune conjunction when he was elected, Oct 28 1958:

   Sun = 4,37 Scorpio (12h GMT)
   Neptune = 4,35 Scorpio

... in exact square to the time when the order to arrange the Council was given.

This conjunction could well represent the unprecedented "catholic" nature of his short-lived (4 years) but revolutionary papacy: there were present 2000+ bishops from every continent and race, the largest, more universal in Church history, and for the first time, observers from 17 non-Catholic Christian factions were invited by the Pope and offered a seat. It was also the first Council ever whose deliberate purpose was not condemning heresy or affirming "infallible" dogma. The Neptunian emphasis can be seen in his opening words at the Council:

<<We see, in fact, as one age succeeds another, that the opinions of men follow one another and exclude each other. And often errors vanish as quickly as they arise, like fog before the sun The Church has always opposed these errors. Frequently she has condemned them with the greatest severity. Nowadays however, the Spouse of Christ prefers to make use of the medicine of mercy rather than that of severity. She considers that she meets the needs of the present day by demonstrating the validity of her teaching rather than by condemnations.>>

Angelo Roncalli was born November 25, 1881, in Sotto il Monte, near Bergamo. I have a time "10:15" a.m. but without a source. He died in the evening of June 3, 1963:

   natal Sun = 3,17 Sagittarius
   tr. Hylonome 11 Oct 1962 = 3,48 Gemini  (precession-corrected to 1881)
   tr. Hylonome at death = 4,04 Gemini

see how clearly Hylonome/Sun opposition marks the Council and his death.

The Council was ended officially by Paul VI December 8 1965 in the morning (NOTE: I don't know the exact time of the closing, but the speech has a passage that says <<... note what is taking place here this morning...>>. So I will assume as reference 9:30 a.m., 8:30 a.m. GMT (positions are precessed to 1881):

   closing Moon = 10,00 Gemini
   closing Hylonome = 10,00 Gemini !!
   death Sun of John XXIII= 11,23 Gemini (using 20h GMT)

Consider that John XXIII had dedicated the Council to "the Immaculate", the celebration of which by the Church is on December 8th (this is the reason why the sessions always ended on Decembert 8th). The full quote mentioned above is:

<<But note what is taking place here this morning. While we close the ecumenical council, we are honoring Mary Most Holy, the mother of Christ, and consequently, as we declared on another occasion, the mother of God and our spiritual mother. We are honoring Mary Most Holy, the Immaculate One, therefore innocent, stupendous, perfect. She is the woman, the true woman who is both ideal and real, the creature in whom the image of God is reflected with absolute clarity, without any disturbance, as happens in every other human creature.>>
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Now consider what we have commented on several occasions about the relationship between "the Virgin" and the centaur Hylonome, evident in the keywords:

"eternal youth, longing for Paradise, lost innocence, purity, tragic beauty, redemption, the cry of the poor, political and religious messianism, the virgin and the prostitute, the voice and the cry of animals..."

The last document of the council, issued on December 7th 1965 ("ON THE CHURCH IN THE MODERN WORLD - GAUDIUM ET SPES"), deals with global economic matters, social injustice, inequality, and above all, poverty and the poor, and in my opinion is one of the most enlightened documents in the history of mankind.

As always, it is mainly pretty words on paper, but nevertheless, in spite of the contradictions, its long-range impact on the history of the Church is without measure. If interested, you can read it here:

"The cry of the poor" and "political and religious messianism" will take us directly to Theology of Liberation.



Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:10:40 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Second Vatican Council, 2

>Sun = 17,32 Libra
>True Black Moon = 17,21 Libra

Before going into the Conference of Medellín, I would like to say at least a few words about this conjunction. Everything I am going to say is only tentative, and I would very much appreciate any insight or intuition that you might have about it, because its meaning does not come readily to my mind.

But before I start speculating about it, I will recapitulate some things that from my perspective have come to the surface so far:

The Council was officially opened during the rare triple Jupiter/TL66 conjunction of 1962. I suggested that this was related to "the end of time" sociological thinking. The Catholic Church, with its doctrine of Salvation, Judgement Day, the Community of Saints, The Kingdom of Heaven, the Mystery of Death and Resurrection, etc., has a natural affinity to TL66. Maybe the whole of Christianity has this affinity if we think on the last book of the Bible (Apocalypse, Revelation), which, I feel, is "paradigmatically" TL66; or in other words: the Book of Revelation contains many of the themes, imagery, symbols, archetypes, etc., that I feel are naturally related to TL66.

Another aspect of TL66 that could be related to the optimism and "joyful" and/or "youthful" energy of Jupiter is the "aggiornamento", the "updating" or rejuvenation of the Catholic Church. The Documents of the Second Vatican Council incarnate the effort of the Church to fulfill its promise, or its pastoral and escathological task. One can imagine the "fortress", the defensive Church that had become stagnant, deaf and blind to the real needs of people and of the times, rigidly fixated in its "absolute power" (another aspect of TL66), epitomized by the dogma of "Papal Infallibility" that had been proclaimed in the previous Council one century before.

The Second Vatican Council of 1962 can then be seen as the more positive spiritual side of TL66. The Council was not only an event of enormous historical significance in the history of Christianity, but also an act or action, something that blossomed in the current of time (the "New Pentecost") and the fruits of which will be lived by future generations.

Logically, non-Catholics will not see it that way, but not only them: the tendency is that the majority of the world will by-pass its spiritual significance, because it is not something immediately physical or economical or political like war or pestilence that can absorb the world's attention. Its significance, however, is undeniable in the light of the documents that resulted from it: I mentioned the last document, entitled "GAUDIUM ET SPES" read publicly on Dec. 7 1965, 1 day before the Council closed, and called it "one of the most enlightened documents in the history of mankind".

I feel that this document, which paved the way to the flourishing of Liberation Theology in Latin America, has the clue to the meaning of the Black Moon at the Council's opening. The Black Moon, by itself is not a point of transcendence or transformation as, for example, TL66; the Council, then, owes this to Jupiter/TL66 and to Quaoar. Let's remember the significance of Quaoar on 25 Jan 1959, when the Pope announced the event and ordered its preparation <<like a flash of heavenly light, shedding sweetness in eyes and hearts>> (the position are shown here in the sidereal zodiac):

   Sun opening = 23,19 Virgo
   True Black Moon opening = 23,08 Virgo
   Quaoar 25 Jan 1959 = 24,04 Virgo

My feeling is that the "fulminant" (solar conjunction) focus of the Black Moon relates to the following:

a-) the emphatic prominence in the document of "the poor and the afflicted" , the sufferers or victims of social injustice, as the reason for being of the Church. This is more easily understood if we consider the case of Emiliano Zapata (and the film director Elia Kazan, who was born with an exact Sun/Black Moon conjunction, too). This is seen in the very first words of the document [reference mentioned in my last post]:

<<The joys and the hopes, the griefs and the anxieties of the men of this age, especially those who are poor or in any way afflicted, these are the joys and hopes, the griefs and anxieties of the followers of Christ.>>

b-) the role of the Virgin Mary, not just in Catholic doctrine but in the feelings of precisely those people referred to, as the spiritual reality or spiritual being that encompasses or absorbs all those "joys and hopes, griefs and anxieties". This devotion to Mary is enormously strong among the poor, the peasants, the Indians, etc., in Catholic countries.

NOTE: some of these "virgins", like Our Lady of Los Angeles here in Costa Rica, are black. We call her "La Negrita" (the little black), in an expression of both intimacy and devotion; and the whole of Mexican culture is permeated by the cult of their Virgin of Guadalupe...

The 2 things (a and b) are really one and the same. They are the same expression of our ancestral relationship with "Mother Earth", that the Catholic Church absorbed in its mariology. Interestingly, the cult of Mary is a fusion of 2 very ancient archetypes: "Mother Earth" (the Black Moon, or the lunar orbit in general probably including the node), and the ancient "Isis" (TL66); one is completely chtonic or teluric (Black Moon / Mother Earth), the other completely celestial or spiritual (TL66 / Isis).

In my previous post, it was made evident that Vatican II and the life of Pope John XXIII were also very strongly related to the centauress Hylonome. Hylonome and the Black Moon incarnate different aspects of the same feminine energy, in the same way that I have maintained in the past how Chariklo also incarnates an aspect of the Lilith archetype not found in the Black Moon or the purely Lunar realm. Both Hylonome and the Black Moon can incarnate both a virgin and a harlot, and the differentiation between the 2 energies is a necessary step in order to understand them both.

I am all open to what others can say about this distinction.



Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:30:53 -0600
Subject: [Centaurs] Second Vatican Council, 3

The document "Gaudium et Spes" (I don't know what that means) I have been talking about is mentioned in "Liberation Theology: Chronology":

and is referred to as <<the longest and most influential document>> of Vatican II. This page has some quotes from the document that I think help clarify the meaning of Hylonome and the Black Moon:

<<Never has the human race enjoyed such an abundance of wealth, resources and economic power, and yet a huge proportion of the world's citizens are still tormented by hunger and poverty...

<<While an immense number of people still lack the absolute necessities of life, some, even in less advanced areas, live in luxury or squander wealth. Extravagance and wretchedness exist side by side. While a few enjoy very great power of choice, the majority are deprived of almost all possibility of acting on their own initiative and responsibility, and often subsist in living and working conditions unworthy of the human person...

NOTE: remember Hylonome is "the cry of the poor"...

<<God intended the earth with everything contained in it for the use of all human beings and peoples... The Fathers and Doctors of the Church held this opinion, teaching that men are obliged to come to the relief of the poor and to do so not merely out of their superfluous goods. If one is in extreme necessity, he has the right to procure for himself what he needs out of the riches of others.

NOTE: now we are coming to plentiful "Mother Earth" --the Black Moon-- expressed here in the idea of "property", especially with regards to land:

<< is the right of public authority to prevent anyone from abusing his private property to the detriment of the common good.

<<By its very nature private property has a social quality which is based on the law of the common destination of earthly goods. If this social quality is overlooked, property often becomes an occasion of passionate desires for wealth and serious disturbances, so that a pretext is given to the attackers for calling the right itself into question.

NOTE: in the following paragraph one can see the description of what was the main struggle of Emiliano Zapata, or more accurately, the reasons for the Mexican Revolution of 1910, conditions which exists today all the same in that same part of Mexico and which are the justification for the modern "Movimiento Zapatista":

<<In many underdeveloped regions there are large or even extensive rural estates which are only slightly cultivated or lie completely idle for the sake of profit, while the majority of the people either are without land or have only very small fields, and, on the other hand, it is evidently urgent to increase the productivity of the fields. Not infrequently those who are hired to work for the landowners or who till a portion of the land as tenants receive a wage or income unworthy of a human being, lack decent housing and are exploited by middlemen. Deprived of all security, they live under such personal servitude that almost every opportunity of acting on their own initiative and responsibility is denied to them and all advancement in human culture and all sharing in social and political life is forbidden to them. ...Indeed, insufficiently cultivated estates should be distributed to those who can make these lands fruitful...

NOTE: This means agrarian or land --Black Moon-- reform, and in many respects, social revolution. Now the part of Hylonome refered to as "political and religious messianism" --the Christian theme of "liberation":

<<...the greater part of the world is still suffering from so much poverty that it is as if Christ Himself were crying out in these poor to beg the charity of the disciples. Do not let men, then, be scandalized because some countries with a majority of citizens who are counted as Christians have an abundance of wealth, whereas others are deprived of the necessities of life and are tormented with hunger, disease, and every kind of misery. The spirit of poverty and charity are the glory and witness of the Church of Christ.

Note this last sentence "The spirit of poverty and charity are the glory and witness of the Church of Christ", although obviously not practiced my many inside the Church, traditionally allied in Latin America (and most of the world) with the ruling class and the wealthy.

The overall significance of Vatican II is summarized in:

I would like to quote this summary, which I think illuminates the meaning of the Jupiter/TL66 and Sun/Quaoar signature:

<<Until the 1950’s Roman Catholic theology was stuck in the counter-Reformation way of thinking. None of the discussions, debates and struggles of the Protestant Reformation had much impact. They were tied to centers of power and worked against the various revolutions which over-threw monarchs. Modern biblical scholarship was only accept in the first half of the 1900’s and most theological progress was repressed until Vatican II. This was a major change in Roman Catholic thought and practice. Up until this time the ecumenical movement had existed without any participation of the Roman Catholics. Either you were Roman or you were wrong. With Vatican II the Roman church recognized the other churches as Christian, but inferior because they didn't ally with the pope.

And now the Moon/Hylonome signature:

<<The colonial period saw a huge expansion of the Roman Catholics into other countries, but they were usually allied with the colonizers rather than the indigenous people. Vatican II saw all of this change, with local churches and Bishops being granted greater power.

<<This increased local power led first in South and Central America and later in Africa to the rise of liberation theology. This theology challenged the traditional support of the church for those who were oppressing the poor for their own monetary gain.>>

With these demonstration quotes, I will pass to the Conference of Medellín.


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